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re: Good for Pope Francis
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:40 pm to roadGator
I'm more than willing to have a discussion. You know that.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:41 pm to AUveritas
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No other logically sound explanation has been offered by you
Nor has one been offered by you.
"Magic" isn't a sound hypothesis
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
As a religious person....
IDGAF.
IDGAF.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:55 pm to buckeye_vol
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But we can't prove it one way or the other
Why not?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:04 pm to Fun Bunch
No magic offered. Just descriptions of what the First Cause would have to be.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:05 pm to joshnorris14
Explain
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:28 pm to AUveritas
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have to be
Here is your biggest error.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:39 pm to Sapere
quote:Well we can't right now at least. And the extent to which the creating mechanisms were intelligent is exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to determine.
Why not?
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:41 pm to AUveritas
quote:
would have to be.
Nah.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:00 pm to PowerTool
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You're a terrible person and a worse troll.
I mean, 14 pages seems pretty successful to me
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
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14 pages seems pretty successful to me
He's right, you know.
Y'all got GOT
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
Pope Francis said it so it must be true
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:13 pm to Godawgs1114
quote:Or the overwhelming scientific evidence.
Pope Francis said it so it must be true
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:18 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Or the overwhelming scientific evidence.
So there's scientific eveindece that if there is a God, his powers are limited?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:22 pm to Revelator
quote:The scientific evidence is evaluating things independent of whatever God's existence or power may be.
So there's scientific eveindece that if there is a God, his powers are limited?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:49 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
The scientific evidence is evaluating things independent of whatever God's existence or power may be.
I'm not interested in what the Pope thinks about the Big Bang or evolution. I take issue with his statement that God isn't some kind of magician. The inference is that God's powers would be limited some how by science.
Well, if there is a God, and I believe there is, he would be the creator of all, which includes all sciences and he would also have put in motion all the laws consistent with science.
Thus, God could and would be able to do anything, and anything he did would be in complete harmony with the very laws he inacted.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:55 pm to Revelator
quote:Or the inference is God has created a universe that follows a set of rules, discoverable by the intelligent beings within that universe. Seems reasonable that God would want us to learn and discover the Universe he created, like we do with our own children.
I take issue with his statement that God isn't some kind of magician. The inference is that God's powers would be limited some how by science.
quote:Exactly. And a magician is an illusionist who tricks us through misdirection; that would be counter to a system of consistent and discoverable rules and processes.
Well, if there is a God, and I believe there is, he would be the creator of all, which includes all sciences and he would also have put in motion all the laws consistent with science.
quote:Exactly. Hence, not a magician tricking us through illusion rather than truth.
Thus, God could and would be able to do anything, and anything he did would be in complete harmony with the very laws he inacted.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 6:04 pm to buckeye_vol
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Exactly. Hence, not a magician tricking us through illusion rather than truth.
I guess my interpretation of his use of the word differs from yours.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 6:07 pm to Revelator
quote:Yes. And I think are biases played a role in that. I just think magician implies "illusion" and "tricking."
I guess my interpretation of his use of the word differs from yours.
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