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re: House opening with Islamic prayer
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I agree.
Would you also agree about any other prayer?
Absolutely not. Why would a prayer in the name of the way the truth and the life disgust me?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:42 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Any prayer should at least have some basis in the foundation of the country in question in order to be a sincere expression.
Uh Huh... What is your "point" supposed to be??
Why not just answer the point I suggested as relevant?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:45 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
I think that if we are going to consider this controversial then we should consider them opening with the Christian prayer controversial as well.
If we are going to nitpick things, we could enforce secularism on the government. But then you guys would bitch about that too.
If we are going to nitpick things, we could enforce secularism on the government. But then you guys would bitch about that too.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:47 pm to BoarEd
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we could enforce secularism on the government. But then you guys would bitch about that too.
What basis in "secularism" can you point to in the foundation of this country?
Are you against all tradition?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:49 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
Christ is king over all nations, whether they acknowledge Him as such or not.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:50 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Would you also agree about any other prayer?
No. We need to have Christianity dominate.
Look, you are not going to get rid of religion. Humans have a need for some type of spirituality. That vacuum will always get filled by something.
Christianity is one of the more benign choices.
Islam is poison.
There, I said it.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:50 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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DisplacedBuckeye
Oh look who showed up to send the thread straight to shite.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:53 pm to Dale51
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Are you against all tradition?
I'm not against any tradition. I just feel like if we allow them to open with a Christian prayer probably 95% of the time, it is okay to open with other types of prayers the other 5% of the time.
After all, there are a shitload of other religious types in this country besides Christians.
I am not petty enough to say any one person's beliefs on God are more valid than someone else's. This thread reaks of xenophobia, IMO.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:54 pm to OysterPoBoy
I hope to some day lead a Hebrew prayer one day. I miss reading the prayers during Chanukah and Passover since my family stopped gathering for the Jewish holidays.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:55 pm to FooManChoo
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Christ is king over all nations, whether they acknowledge Him as such or not.
I agree, I just want to point out that the US has the highest Christian population in the World. Anything but a Christian prayer is just pandering to a minority and pretentious. We have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. We are not only a Christian nation, but the world's largest Christian nation and prayers from our federal government should reflect that.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:56 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Meh. That's insignificant, at best.
If you are dumbarse from Ohio it would be insignificant
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:01 pm to BoarEd
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it is okay to open with other types of prayers the other 5% of the time.
Why is that??
Seriously..you want to open up every single abstract belief system into an expression of what the country was based on??
Seriously..how would that work??
Jainism too? Don't step on that bug...it offends me!
Foundational principles are simply that..foundational principles.
What is not understood about this?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:02 pm to viceman
The number of people identifying as Christians is on the decline in the US bigly. It's down to 65% from 85% in 1990.
35% of the population is a considerable number of people who don't see things the way you do. It's like, 114,000,000 people.
You guys are free to feel however you want, but shoving your beliefs down other people's throats is what is driving people away from your church. Just a heads up.
35% of the population is a considerable number of people who don't see things the way you do. It's like, 114,000,000 people.
You guys are free to feel however you want, but shoving your beliefs down other people's throats is what is driving people away from your church. Just a heads up.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:04 pm to OysterPoBoy
Just hawk loogies. Same thing.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:08 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
And all I can do is vote and pray this crap stops.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:10 pm to BoarEd
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.. but shoving your beliefs down other people's throats is what is driving people away from your church.
Weird flex.
How does this manifest itself in your mind??
What are the everyday examples that you base that impression on??
Serious question.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:10 pm to BoarEd
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The number of people identifying as Christians is on the decline in the US bigly. It's down to 65% from 85% in 1990.
35% of the population is a considerable number of people who don't see things the way you do. It's like, 114,000,000 people.
You guys are free to feel however you want, but shoving your beliefs down other people's throats is what is driving people away from your church. Just a heads up.
frick this anti-Christian horse shite.
Atheists are the preachiest people I know.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:12 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
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a prayer in the name of the way the truth and the life
Ok cool.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:12 pm to BoarEd
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The number of people identifying as Christians is on the decline in the US bigly. It's down to 65% from 85% in 1990.
35% of the population is a considerable number of people who don't see things the way you do. It's like, 114,000,000 people.
Be that it may be. The United States is still majority Christian and the House of Representatives is the people's house. And if we are being honest with ourselves about who we are as Americans, Then the prayers would be Christians prayers. 243 million > 114 million
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:13 pm to TrueTiger
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We need to have Christianity dominate.
Hard pass.
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