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Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:15 am to
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39289 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:15 am to
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How exactly did Russians influence election
Don't pay attention to election fraud, keep your eyes on this shiny Russian object over there.
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5965 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:15 am to
Nothing. I'm kinda shocked that the dems aren't upset about Hillary actually rigging their primary. If I'm not mistaken, It was gonna be Bernie and Trump.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:17 am to
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Could you kindly explain to us Neanderthals how these things are so different?


If you really need me to explain it.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:19 am to
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It's weird that we're two pages in and there's not one good answer.


There are several. Whoever said "they didn't".
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28343 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:37 am to
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If you really need me to explain it.




I do. I really fail to see a difference in influencing an election and influencing the outcome of an election. Unless you meant that the effort to influence the election failed, in which case its the most poorly phrased gotcha I've ever seen. There's no substantive difference between the two.


Smug and meaningless at the same time. Very impressive.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 10:41 am
Posted by JoBoo
Ethiopian-American
Member since Jul 2005
5075 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:46 am to
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What exactly did Russians do to stop me from pushing button for HRC.


That's what they're investigating..
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:48 am to
What would the Dems do if Russia started importing "undocumented" Russian immigrants through Mexico to start voting republican?

It would be awkward when they cry for a wall and an investigation into voter fraud, or god forbid ID laws.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 10:50 am
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:51 am to
Hillary had a donor list a mile long from foreign countries "paying to play", many of whom didn't have the US best interests in mind.

Does anyone really think the Dem machine didn't/doesn't have some type of "scratch my back I'll scratch yours" agreement? Delusion is a powerful brain decognitive
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:53 am to
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Spread fake news and propoganda is my understanding.




Unlike the DNC who was saying "People would literally be dying in the streets." If ObamaCare were repealed.

Or, "Trump will deport all immigrants!"

I have a laundry list of things the Dems said that were false to try to influence the election. Not to mention, forcing Hillary on an unwitting Democratic populace.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:54 am to
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What exactly did Russians do to stop me from pushing button for HRC.


They exposed the criminal shenanigans of Team Hillary. So the expose' is the bad thing, not the shenanigans. That's what the left is trying to tell you.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:58 am to
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If I type it out, are you sure you'll be able to read it?




I'm sure some of us would. You offered, now provide, please.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:58 am to
Short of finding evidence of them hacking voting machines and manipulating the numbers, we'll never know if their influence had any impact on the outcome of the election. And before anyone loses their mind, I am NOT saying that occurred. Just saying that is likely the only way anyone will be able to prove they had an impact on the actual outcome.


But to believe they influenced it, you have to believe every credible source that has said they were behind the Wikileaks stuff, which many on this board still don't believe. Many of the releases were timed to change the national narrative, usually a narrative that was negative towards Trump. This board ate up the Wikileak releases. Every one of them got a pinned thread to the top of the page.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:00 am to
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Did Russia type those emails for Podesta?




No surprise your pea brain missed the point.




Why do liberals always say. "You wouldn't understand" or "It's too complicated for you." or "it's over your head." when people ask them a question? You can never get a straight answer. It's just excuse after excuse why they won't answer a question.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6820 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:02 am to
With Wikileaks, thousands of fake Facebook accounts , fake Twitter accounts, and many other internet fake news outlets.

They did it through fake news laced with HRC propaganda that had some real news intertwined. Even Trump quoted some of the Russian fake news in his speeches.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:04 am to
I think that's because the Wikileaks stuff that leaked the emails was actual hard concrete proof of the DNC undermining its own primary, blatant cheating, and collusion between main stream media outlets/journalists with the Democratic Party. Something that's been completely overlooked and cannot be harped on enough.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:05 am to
Just for fun.

Can someone explain to me why, after gaining information upon a candidate given near certain odds of winning, the Russians chose to make a deal with the candidate with near certain odds of losing?

That's just fricking weird.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:06 am to
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Why do liberals always say. "You wouldn't understand" or "It's too complicated for you." or "it's over your head." when people ask them a question?



Because my initial post in this thread(which you didn't quote) that the question was in response to really spoke for itself. His question showed he completely missed the point.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:06 am to
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With Wikileaks, thousands of fake Facebook accounts , fake Twitter accounts, and many other internet fake news outlets. They did it through fake news laced with HRC propaganda that had some real news intertwined. Even Trump quoted some of the Russian fake news in his speeches.


You do realize that everything you listed above existed PRO Hillary also. Right? You do realize this, right?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:09 am to
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I think that's because the Wikileaks stuff that leaked the emails was actual hard concrete proof of the DNC undermining its own primary, blatant cheating, and collusion between main stream media outlets/journalists with the Democratic Party.



And if any of that influenced people's voting decision, then you have to come to the conclusion that Russians influenced the election. Someone at least gets it.

It'd be more honest for people to admit Russia influenced the election, but the ends justified the means.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:09 am to
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Short of finding evidence of them hacking voting machines and manipulating the numbers, we'll never know if their influence had any impact on the outcome of the election.


I actually agree with this. There is no way of knowing if they had any impact, and if they did how big of an impact. The only way of knowing this is if they found they hacked the voting machines, and I believe they have already ruled that out.

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But to believe they influenced it, you have to believe every credible source that has said they were behind the Wikileaks stuff, which many on this board still don't believe.

Hard to blame anybody for not believing the press when they have already shown their bias....quite clearly.

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Many of the releases were timed to change the national narrative, usually a narrative that was negative towards Trump.

Timed? Possible. but they were released by WikiLeaks, not the Russians.
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This board ate up the Wikileak releases. Every one of them got a pinned thread to the top of the page.

Of course it did. It was major news. It was actual e-mails exposing corruption of one of the major parties. Are you insinuating that the left would have done differently if the situation had been reversed?
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