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86% of those detained have no criminal convictions.



Wrong. 100% have committed a crime.
Reading comprehension is hard.
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So, as an American, am I better off having oil traded in US dollars or am I better off with one of the alternatives. I’m guessing the former.
That depends, do you like paying for endless war?
Do you like our best and bravest sacrificed like pawns so the elite can stay in power?
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86% of those detained have no criminal convictions.



Credible link please....
How about the ICE website? Is that credible enough for ya? LINK

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ICE agents ate lunch at a Mexican restaurant in Minn, enjoyed their meal then came back later that night as the restaurant was closing down and arrested the people who had served them.
I'm sure Minnesotans statewide are breathing a sigh of relief and can finally sleep at night.
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For one thing, ICE is not concentrating on the "worst of the worst". That's been a sham since day one. Very few of the detainees have been convicted of a serious crime.
86% of those detained have no criminal convictions.
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It was dumb to remove the gold standard though.
It just shows how greedy these bastards are. With nothing backing it, they could print all the money they wanted to. There was no longer that restriction.
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illegal scum
86% of those detained have no criminal convictions.
Yes, if you care to know why things are happening. I've been on this board for over 20 years and about 95% of those posting have never given any indication that they have a clue about the concept of this video.

That's why I posted it.

re: This video explains EVERYTHING...

Posted by TX Tiger on 1/16/26 at 3:30 pm to
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I have no idea how old you are but I have been hearing about this boogey man for the better part of 30 years at various times.

What boogey man?
SIAP

Judging by the way people post here it's as if they'd never seen this video before.
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Just to be clear, you think it is ok to flee from detainment and in doing so, target the officer with a vehicle?

Yes or no?
No

This video explains EVERYTHING...

Posted by TX Tiger on 1/16/26 at 12:25 pm
This is why we spent 20-plus years in the Middle East.
This is why we're taking over Venezuela.
This may be the most important video you ever watch.

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Even IF it was just 2, as you claim, that’s more than enough time to follow a simple command.

You aren't a serious person.
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couple of seconds? Really?



She had a shite pot full of time before she went out there to frick with lawful actions.
Irrelevant.
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If I had to lay whatever wealth I've accumulated in my decades of life, I would guess she got fired up and goaded to go out there and do something. Probably did not feel that strongly about any of it. Got involved with it, thought it was all fun and games to a certain extent. To get in the middle of things, finally realized she had overplayed her weak hand and panicked. Like I said, she made poor decisions all day. I hate that she died, but sometimes you've got to realize the downside is not worth it.

I would imagine that her parents feel like she made poor decisions, her female partner feels like she made poor decisions. Years from now. Her children will feel like she made poor decisions.
Completely agree with everything you said.
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How many seconds? Be exact.
Just watched the video again. It was 3 seconds.
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couple of seconds? Really?



How many seconds? Be exact.
You tell me.
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The video proves they gave her a reasonable amount of time to make a decision.
How long would you say that was?
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She made the wrong decision
It's physically impossible to get out of the vehicle and drive away.
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She should not have been parked perpendicular to the flow of traffic.
Agreed.
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She was purposely blocking the road with her vehicle.
Wrong. Cars were passing her by.
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Who is she to block traffic and wave people around?
A legal US citizen.
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She was approached by the ICE people. And told to get out of her car. She refused and drove off, striking the ice officer.
There's the disconnect. It was seconds after giving orders that one officer grabbed her door to yank her out. And BTW, the other officer was telling her to drive away. Conflicting orders and given a few seconds to respond before grabbing the door to yank her out.
Do you consider that attempting to de-escalate the situation?
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She had enough time to choose between obey or escalate.
A couple of seconds? Really?
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hey tried to detain only AFTER she chose to escalate the situation by refusing to leave.

How long after they gave those instructions did they grab her door handle to yank her out? I mean how long does a person have to respond after given an order. In this case it was a few seconds.
In other words, she hadn't had the opportunity to comply.
And BTW, the two officers gave conflicting orders. One said drive away, the other said get out of the car.
We've already been through this.
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what law, feel free to cite it

Federal Regulations on Force and Escalation

Minimum Force Required: Under 8 CFR § 287.8, immigration officers are legally required to use the "minimum non-deadly force necessary".
Conditional Escalation: Agents are only permitted to escalate to higher levels of force when it is "objectively reasonable" based on the actions or apparent intentions of the suspect.
De-escalation Mandate: Current ICE Use of Force policies (updated as of 2023 and continuing through 2026) instruct officers to prioritize de-escalation techniques and only use force when no "safe and feasible alternative" is available.

Agents must follow federal regulations requiring force to be "objectively reasonable" under the Fourth Amendment.

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects individuals against unreasonable searches and seizures by the government, generally requiring a warrant based on probable cause
. It ensures security in persons, houses, papers, and effects, applying to government actions, not private parties. Warrants must describe the place and items to be searched/seized

Key Legal and Policy Constraints on ICE Escalation

Minimum Necessary Force: DHS policy stipulates that agents must use the minimum, non-deadly force needed to accomplish their mission, escalating only when warranted.
Objectively Reasonable Standard: The Supreme Court mandates that all law enforcement force—deadly or not—must meet an "objective reasonableness" standard, meaning actions must be justified by the situation.