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re: How would you change the Constitution to keep us from getting here?

Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:29 pm to
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That design protected states from federal overreach. The public might favor a policy like a national drinking age of 21, but a senator accountable to a state legislature would never vote to let Washington strong-arm the state by threatening to withhold funds.


Why? When have states ever declined increased spending ability?

The issue is how that funding is possible, which is commerce clause expansion via Wickard. Not the "General Welfare" clause or the "necessary and proper clause". Those are beholden to the CC providing the authority in the first place.

States will always become whores, regardless of how their Senators are selected. In fact, it's more likely that "the establishment" in each state is more likely to favor being whores. Citizens are much more likely to oppose this sort of spending.

You want a great example proving my point? The OG Tea Party in 2010

Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Rubio, etc. never get a shot with the old system specifically because they wanted reform off taxing/spending.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 5:29 pm
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17410 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:38 pm to
Why not change the weak arse people?
Until then, any legislation will just make it worse.
The only chance we have is through honest elections.
Remains to be seen if that can happen.
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
5396 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:51 pm to
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Start with the 17th Amendment

I'd argue starting with the 19th and 15th would work faster.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6961 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:03 pm to
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Senators were originally meant to represent state governments, not popular opinion.

Again do you think in anyway this would be an improvement.

Its obviously popular with a subset of burn anything that feels non original.

But every one of you is avoiding the fact that modern political parties are nothing like this imagined states rights world that never existed.

Again, why are these state political machines going to be any different than how senators are appointed on a vacancy.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41281 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:34 pm to
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Why not change the weak arse people?
Until then, any legislation will just make it worse.
The only chance we have is through honest elections.
Remains to be seen if that can happen.


How do you do that when half of the nation supports communism?
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12991 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:36 pm to
No political office can be held by a naturalized citizen.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 10:55 am
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17410 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 2:10 am to
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How do you do that when half of the nation supports communism?

It’s not half and a large percentage of these are too stupid to know they’re communist.
The main issue is they are low information people.
That can be changed.
Posted by theballguy
Un-PC for either side
Member since Oct 2011
35175 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 2:14 am to
Me personally? Can’t be done. I wouldn’t want to.

But if there was one thing I would work towards getting an amendment in: term limits.

Sweet Sweeping Term Limits across the board. 2 terms for Presidency is fine though.
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