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Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:12 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:The Bible is a testimony. Why do you think it is divided into two parts called “testaments”? What is a testament?
The Bible is a story. If you wish people to accept it as history, provide evidence for it.
There is a lot of evidence to conclude that the Bible is basically reliable with its accounts. If you want evidence for every jot and tittle then you are asking for an impossible task and you are setting a standard that you aren’t even holding other ancient manuscripts to. We can’t even prove every experience we have today if we wanted to. If you were asked to provide an impromptu account of everything you did on this day a month ago, could you prove every minor detail?
quote:If the Bible has nothing verifiable in it, perhaps you would be right. Fortunately it is full of people, places, and events that have been verified as true, so to characterize it as some uncoordinated speculative ramblings that is undeserving of attention is disingenuous.
If the Bible is the only piece of evidence for something occurring, we have no reason to believe it until other evidence becomes available.
quote:The claim is evidence in itself, which you fail to see. What you are talking about is the strength of the evidence. A single eye-witness is evidence but isn’t as strong as three unrelated eye-witnesses.
Something only constitutes evidence in light of other evidence. In a vacuum, everything is circular. I can’t show anything to be true on the basis of a single source claim, as this requires I use the claim to prove itself.
The Bible is evidence for the existence of Jesus because other sources outside the Bible help validate that claim, and thus we know Jesus probably existed in some capacity. Those multiple sources combine with the Bible to constitute evidence, and the more sources the better.
Claims isolated ONLY to the Bible (such as, for instance, the dead emerging from their graves and wandering Jerusalem) have no reason to be believed because there is nothing outside the story to corroborate it.
The Bible makes claims that were attested to by the apostles but the claims themselves are of a nature that could be corroborated or disproved at that time. The claim that Jesus rose from the dead in private to the small group of apostles is one thing, but to claim that He then appeared to hundreds of people in that area over the course of a month is another.
The testimonies were not secret revelations but public. Jesus’ ministry wasn’t simply teaching a small group of followers that hung on every word. It was public and observed by thousands of people, unlike the claims of Joseph Smith, for example.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 11:59 am to Zarkinletch416
quote:I had the same experience and carry the same scar on my belly. 8 days of no food or water causes one to see things much more clearly. I thought I would be dead in 3 years, but it was the best 8 days of my life
They cut me right down the middle of my gut to remove the diseased organ.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 12:00 pm to udtiger
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not Christian, I know.
But I am jealous of the peace and certainty very religious people (of any faith [Christian, Jewish, Muslim]) have.
The KNOWING what you believe is right, despite everything, and finding solace and comfort in that.
Lucky
90% of religious people don't really beleive it it's just hedging their bets and taking away a little bit of the fear of death
Posted on 6/28/20 at 12:08 pm to FooManChoo
quote:You remind me so much of R.C. Sproul (rip) and that is, maybe, the highest compliment that a man can get
FooManChoo
Posted on 6/28/20 at 3:45 pm to burdhead
quote:Thank you very much. I take that as the highest of compliments as he is a personal hero in the Faith for me.
You remind me so much of R.C. Sproul (rip) and that is, maybe, the highest compliment that a man can get
Posted on 6/28/20 at 3:46 pm to udtiger
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 3:58 pm to DelU249
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