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re: Impeachment - They Don't Think it be Like it is, But it Do
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:26 pm to rds dc
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:26 pm to rds dc
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Then it moves to the Senate and it will need a 2/3s vote in that chamber.
This is what democrats who dream about removing Trump fail to grasp.
There is some bizarre scenario where the Dems successfully take the house and co-ordinate with Mueller to actually draw up and pass impeachment charges, it's unlikely but in the realm of possibility.
However it would then go to the Senate where it would die 100% of the time and Trump remains.
It's like none of them have bothered to read the Constitution.
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:40 pm to WeeWee
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I would not be surprised if the uniparty members that claim to be republican, joined with their uniparty breathern in the democratic party and voted against Trump.
They better line up their lobbyist gigs, because they will be finished in elective politics.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:51 pm to rds dc
Oh no
You.missed a couple of other ways that do result in president pence.
If'n evidence is presented which proves crimes by the president then cover is granted.
charges that stick and for which evidence exists which is incontrovertible.
Cohen alone. Meh.
Cohen and his trusty recording device, maybe. Admissible in court. No. But in the house, you betcha.
Cohen and witnessed notes, Yahtzee.
We want a paper trail or confessions. How many confessions? It appears that Cohen's confessions implicate the president.
You.missed a couple of other ways that do result in president pence.
If'n evidence is presented which proves crimes by the president then cover is granted.
charges that stick and for which evidence exists which is incontrovertible.
Cohen alone. Meh.
Cohen and his trusty recording device, maybe. Admissible in court. No. But in the house, you betcha.
Cohen and witnessed notes, Yahtzee.
We want a paper trail or confessions. How many confessions? It appears that Cohen's confessions implicate the president.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:53 pm to CelticDog
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We want a paper trail or confessions. How many confessions? It appears that Cohen's confessions implicate the president.
You must have missed Davis stating there was no corroborating evidence. It’s cohens word alone. Good luck.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:56 pm to CelticDog
My guess all along was Monafort was still working for putin.
I doubt he confesses.
Monafort is counting on a pardon.
I doubt he confesses.
Monafort is counting on a pardon.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:22 pm to rds dc
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For all the people getting spun up about impeachment here is what it be like.
First, no US president has ever been removed from office via impeachment. Only two presidents have ever been impeached by the House but both were acquitted by the Senate.
So how would Trump be impeached?
Mueller would have to send his findings to the House Judiciary Committee. That is the end of the line for Mueller. He can't indict or impeach Trump (despite popular opinion and feels). The current makeup of the committee is 24 R and 17 D and it takes a simple majority vote to send a resolution to the House.
The Rs could easily kill any resolution in the committee and that might be the route they take. However, my guess is that they would send it to the House in a good faith effort at full transparency. The resolution would die in the House. Impeachment is just as much a political exercises as it is a legal one. Despite what the MSM and polls say, Trump is popular with his base and it would be bad politics for anyone to vote for impeachment.
But but but the Ds will take the House back! (they won't) That election isn't until late in '18 and the newly elected don't start the next day. If Mueller is waiting on that, then you are talking 2019. I don't see anyway Mueller can drag this out until then.
So, let's pretend that the Ds take the House and that Mueller is able to juke and jive until then and that no one complains about the $20 million price tag. The Ds follow the same path as above but are able to pass a resolution to impeach Trump. Eureka! Not really.
Then it moves to the Senate and it will need a 2/3s vote in that chamber. The Ds won't have the votes. Not even close. Trump will be acquitted by the Senate in every scenario.
You want to know how you get more Trump? That is how you get more Trump. Nothing would fire the base up like seeing the Ds pushing impeachment that far only to fail.
Mueller knows this. The Ds know this. Trump knows this. The only calculus that the Ds/Deep State can go with is that this process would so damage Trump that he won't be reelected in '20 (it wont, he will)
just imagine what would happen if Trump gets removed from office then wins the election again in 2020.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:49 pm to Champagne
Money may not be his prime motive...but as long as he is investigating Trump or those in proximity too him...Mueller will have as secure income as RBG
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:04 pm to JJthomson
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The entire partly is completely devoid of moral or principle.
I got two words for ya. Hillary Clinton.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:24 pm to rds dc
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Then it moves to the Senate and it will need a 2/3s vote in that chamber. The Ds won't have the votes. Not even close. Trump will be acquitted by the Senate in every scenario.
I actually think it gets this far (assuming a blue wave in the midterms) but I agree. This is to big of a hill to climb. I think the Democrats and Progressives will be pleased with it making it through the house and the MSM will spin it as some sort of win, despite Trump finishing his term and running for re-election (if he so chooses).
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:33 pm to rds dc
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Then it moves to the Senate and it will need a 2/3s vote in that chamber. The Ds won't have the votes. Not even close. Trump will be acquitted by the Senate in every scenario.
For those that are worried about the Dem House impeaching Trump.
** I was wrong about the Rs maintaining control of the House but it doesn't change anything when it comes to Impeachment **
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