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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:29 pm to
You should go live there
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:30 pm to
Pro Iran bros are just leftist in disguise
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:30 pm to
OP is largely right, FWIW

That doesn't NECESSARILY mean we shouldn't take the opportunity to end the regime and the regime's nuclear ambitions once and for all, however.

I don't care about hypocrisy or what's fair.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:32 pm to
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What a stupid comparison...

Is Pakistan a formally declared terrorist nation? Has it vowed to destroy Israel, every Jew, and the Great Satan?

Lol. So now we need the news media and/or the intelligence apparatus (aka the Deep State) to tell us that something is so in order for it to be true? The cognitive dissonance of you people. Pakistan is a terrorist state by all definitions. Bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan. Much of Al Qaeda was in Pakistan for decades. Their government plays both sides like a fiddle. Politicians who step out of line are either killed or jailed. And what do you think the average Pakistani thinks about Jews and Israelis?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:33 pm to
You could pretty easily make the argument that Pakistan is more volatile than Iran.
Posted by LARancher1991
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:34 pm to
Pretty sure they hate us because their whole religion is based on destroying people that don’t believe the same things they do. America is the great satan to them and because of their theological beliefs us and everyone like us must be destroyed in order for them to reach their great reward.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:34 pm to
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Pro Iran bros are just leftist in disguise


The leftists who supported the communists during the Cold War were complete idiots. These guys showing support for Iran are just as stupid.

As I said before, not wanting us to get involved in Israel’s attack on Iran doesn’t mean you have to support Iran. And the same is true of the idiots showing support for Russia in their war against Ukraine. War is not like a football game where you have to pick a side to pull for in order to watch. Seems many here are too stupid to realize that fact.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:36 pm to
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Pretty sure they hate us because their whole religion is based on destroying people that don’t believe the same things they do. America is the great satan to them and because of their theological beliefs us and everyone like us must be destroyed in order for them to reach their great reward.


Depending on who you ask, they (the majority of Iranians) don't hate us at all.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:36 pm to
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You could pretty easily make the argument that Pakistan is more volatile than Iran.

There is no doubt they are. The Iranians have had fairly stable domestic rule for decades and have avoided wars with their neighbors. The Pakistanis are not only internally volatile, they've been involved in conflicts with India almost continuously, while simultaneously having to deal with the fallout of the Afghan wars.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:37 pm to
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Depending on who you ask, they (the majority of Iranians) don't hate us at all.


The ones who matter do though. And by the ones who matter, I mean the ones in complete control of the government.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67621 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:37 pm to
Correct but if you watch those posters that’s exactly what they’re doing, even to the point of lying about or involvement so far to further push the “poor, innocent Iran” narrative. This is what gives them away, the anti War shite is just rhetoric they don’t actually care about.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Iran is not an irrational actor


Well, that’s a relief. I guess we should just give them an entire arsenal of nukes then.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86741 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:37 pm to
To be clear, people clarifying that the overwhelming majority of Iran is not akin to ISIS or AQ and even the hardliners in/supportive of the regime have shown over a couple of decades that they can be quite shrewd and practical is not necessarily support for Iran.

Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:37 pm to
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DyeHardDylan


I should have known an Auburn fan would be a fricking moron!
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:37 pm to
I guess that could be true. I should’ve been more specific as I was meaning the regime in power that make all the decisions.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26705 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:39 pm to
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If you applied this Israeli cock gobbling logic to the Japs in 1941, Pearl Harbor was justified.


My bad, you are right. It is much more likely the US ship was feeding intel to Israel and THAT is why Israel attacked it.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20067 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:40 pm to
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it was sarin and mustard gas


Don’t let fact get in the way of is looney tunes narrative!
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:41 pm to
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If any country doesn't need nuclear weapons, it's Israel.


Because in the 60-ish years they've had them, they've been so irresponsible with them. Set off many of them in their enemies countries... threatened numerous others, right?

quote:

That's a rhetorical question. I think we all know the answer to it.

Well, some of us know the answer to it. You, apparently, aren't one of them.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:42 pm to
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Lol. So now we need the news media and/or the intelligence apparatus (aka the Deep State) to tell us that something is so in order for it to be true? The cognitive dissonance of you people. Pakistan is a terrorist state by all definitions. Bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan. Much of Al Qaeda was in Pakistan for decades. Their government plays both sides like a fiddle. Politicians who step out of line are either killed or jailed. And what do you think the average Pakistani thinks about Jews and Israelis?


Has Pakistan publicly declared its goal is to destroy Israel and the Great Satan?

Has It nuked Tel Aviv or D.C., or New York?

Idiot...

Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2072 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:45 pm to
We allowed the taliban to be in charge of Afghanistan? Pretty sure that was the afghan army that ran from them like a bunch of cowards. So we should still be in Afghanistan is that what you are saying?
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