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re: Is it time to ditch the word "conservative"

Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:20 am to
Posted by scottydoesntknow
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:20 am to
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All the terminology we use is passive and signifies we are on defense. Progressives by their very name are always on offense, always pushing the envelope, while we are just desperately try and hold them back.

Are you saying emerging Republican leaders need to craft a new strategy to “expand the tent”?


No. Expanding the tent has been the GOP strategy for decades. It kinda works to win some elections here and there...but to actually win cultural and political battles, it sucks. Milquetoast, lukewarm politics suck. It doesnt energize people. The only reason the GOP hasnt been completely buried is because of Trump. Nobody wants Ben Shapiro or some other watered down right wing chode to lead them.

People will follow a Crusade, not another GOP golf clap bake sale
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:21 am to
IYKYK
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:23 am to
Yet when people like Massie and Paul vote "conservative" MAGA sees red and rages.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:23 am to
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So you come in here telling Republicans to get rid of the word "conservative", without an alternative word?


Let me guess, you think "progressives" create progress.


Christian Nationalist, Crusader are two terms that I like
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:27 am to
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Yet when people like Massie and Paul vote "conservative" MAGA sees red and rages.


Maybe because weve seen this idealistic loser routine for decades and are sick and tired of it.

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RogerTheShrubber


You arent needed or wanted. We dont want your input. We dont want your vote. You are just like leftists to us...someone we will defeat to move forward.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:30 am to
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Maybe because weve seen this idealistic loser routine


Which contradicts what you pretend to want in the OP

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You arent needed or wanted. We dont want your input.


Good. I loathe collectivism and MAGA is a progressive collective. It means you failed as an individual
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 8:31 am
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:35 am to
Rebranding or even a new party can not reverse the country’s trajectory. When increasing the national debt by ‘only’ $7T instead of $9T over the next decade is celebrated as a conservative victory, the word no longer has any meaning. The Rubicon is in the rear view mirror.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:39 am to
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IYKYK


Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:47 am to
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Good. I loathe collectivism and MAGA is a progressive collective. It means you failed as an individual


Scram, you arent wanted here
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:48 am to
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Scram, you arent wanted here


Your club is for life's losers who are afraid Mexicans are going to take their job.'

No man wants to be part of that stupidity.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:49 am to
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Rebranding or even a new party can not reverse the country’s trajectory


Read the thread again. Ill admit I could have worded my OP better...but I dont want a rebrand. I want something new completely
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:49 am to
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Scram, you arent wanted here


Your club is for life's losers who are afraid Mexicans are going to take their job.'

No man wants to be part of that stupidity.


Cool, go away now old man
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:49 am to
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Perhaps we have lost conservative influence because we don’t know the meaning of the word?


I think it’s more that people don’t want it than people don’t understand it.

Try to cut the defense budget,

Try to cut the education budget,

Try to cut infrastructure,

Try to cut the bureaucratic work force,

Try to cut environmental funding,

Try to cut social programs,

Try to cut foreign aid,

Try to cut the CIA and FBI and NSA,

Try to cut almost anything and a lot of people lose their shite.

By and large, Americans want spending and they don’t care about the consequences of fiscal irresponsibility.

There have been people here on this board, supposedly intelligent people, tell me that money doesn’t matter and the US can never, and will never, financially collapse.
Posted by SouthernHog
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:50 am to
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I want something new completely



I like Christian Nationalist personally
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:51 am to
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People want free stuff and limited accountability.



Stop giving them free stuff. It really is that simple. If they want to take our property for themselves, they better bring an army



Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
8004 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:54 am to
Why? conservatives are normal.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:54 am to
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I want something new completely



I like Christian Nationalist personally


Me too. I dont care who it offends. Just think how silly it is to truly believe in God and at the same time believe that basing your life and your country's government on the Word that God gave us is not wise.

I totally understand an atheist thinking its silly or unwise. Ill never understand real Christians thinking it
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:56 am to
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Stop giving them free stuff. It really is that simple.


Well... it's a simple explanation of why youth are attracted to socialism.

My daughter and her young family have 2 primary concerns right now- buying a home and paying off student loans.

Whoever can speak to these will probably get their two votes.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26480 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:56 am to
We couldn't even cut Big Bird
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:57 am to
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Try to cut the defense budget,

Try to cut the education budget,

Try to cut infrastructure,

Try to cut the bureaucratic work force,

Try to cut environmental funding,

Try to cut social programs,

Try to cut foreign aid,

Try to cut the CIA and FBI and NSA,


The only things conservatives are successfully conserving. There actually is no debate on this, unless one just wants to ignore all data and facts.
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