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re: Is Vivek Ramaswamy right?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:12 am to AlterEd
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:12 am to AlterEd
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Well, it isn't the Republicans who have committed treason about 1,000 times over the past 10 years, so I don't fear the Democrats dropping any hammer on the Republicans.
Yes but you’re still thinking this is right and wrong but it isn’t, it’s just about acquiring and holding onto power and the means by which both sides have to go to in order to accomplish that outcome will continue to get more and more radical as it does in all zero sum game scenarios.
The left doesn’t care what the pretext is they’ll manufacture it, justify it and do what you outlined to anyone in their way.
And we’re very close to actual state sponsored kinetic violence IMO because once you think the other side will put you in prison given a chance most politicians will 100% justify killing someone rather than providing them that opportunity.
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The idea is to ruin them in front of the whole world (DNC leadership) for the malfeasance they have displayed since 2015.
Agree 100% on consequences, without draconian consequences we will see more and more of the lawfare of the past 15 years.
But let’s be clear, the DNC is a majority socialist and globalist base. They are Bernie-AOC not Bill Clinton circa 1992.
Bill Clinton would be a moderate Republican today.
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:13 am to AlterEd
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Some people are still trying to have a discussion.
Whodat?
You were done the moment you started slingin' racist around.
Go to bed, ya tardgina!
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 12:36 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:14 am to SallysHuman
I really would’ve thought that an intellect the class of AlterEd would’ve given up by now but yet, here we are. Lol
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:17 am to JiminyCricket
Ed is based, we don’t have to all always agree on everything in minute detail. Kudos for trying to hold on to his commendable values in times of strifes.
Racism has just been weaponized against us so much to silence and enslave us that most of the justly angry and awakened rights don’t have any fricks left to give.
Honestly in another time ( or this one) I would ride into battle with the confederacy alongside true racists (slave-holders) for the greater good to defend our threatened nation even though I personally despised their morals and values with regards to race. And help to free slaves in the Underground Railroad to freedom in the north at the same time.
Times are such today where these values (defending our country and culture vs not judging individuals by their race) are conflicting and it is hard to walk the line while championing the greater good.
Racism has just been weaponized against us so much to silence and enslave us that most of the justly angry and awakened rights don’t have any fricks left to give.
Honestly in another time ( or this one) I would ride into battle with the confederacy alongside true racists (slave-holders) for the greater good to defend our threatened nation even though I personally despised their morals and values with regards to race. And help to free slaves in the Underground Railroad to freedom in the north at the same time.
Times are such today where these values (defending our country and culture vs not judging individuals by their race) are conflicting and it is hard to walk the line while championing the greater good.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 12:19 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:17 am to tide06
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The left doesn’t care what the pretext is they’ll manufacture it, justify it and do what you outlined to anyone in their way.
This is why we can't waste our opportunity we have now and beat them to the punch. It will be done. And it should be done before midterms.
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Agree 100% on consequences, without draconian consequences we will see more and more of the lawfare of the past 15 years.
Same response. It's time to bury them. Forever. Let the DNC go the way of the Whig party.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:21 am to AlterEd
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This is why we can't waste our opportunity we have now and beat them to the punch. It will be done. And it should be done before midterms.
I don’t think Trump has control over the full DOJ any more than he does the CIA so I hope to see it but don’t really expect it at this point.
If they were serious they would’ve had their own attorneys ready to come in to execute that plan… they don’t. 90% of them are DC swamp dwellers just riding out the storm.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:21 am to Kjnstkmn
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Racism has just been weaponized against us so much to silence and enslave us that most of the justly angry and awakened rights don’t have any fricks left to give.
I get it, brother. But if there is one thing this thing has taught me its patience. I'll continue having fricks to give for what I feel is right until and if they finally destroy our country. But I don't think they will. We win this bitch in the 11th hour.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:22 am to Kjnstkmn
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Ed is based, we don’t have to all always agree on everything in minute detail. Kudos for trying to hold on to his commendable values in times of strifes.
He may be based. Idk him and haven’t followed his posts but the over the top whining about racism this racism that is just so worn out and tired by this point. Then he called me mean names and said he would beat me up so pardon me if I don’t send him a Christmas card.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 12:25 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:23 am to tide06
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I don’t think Trump has control over the full DOJ any more than he does the CIA so I hope to see it but don’t really expect it at this point.
Time will tell. I think they have everything under control, personally. I know it doesn't look it, but this thing is complex beyond imagining. I think we're good.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:32 am to AlterEd
Patriots are in control.
NCSWIC
NCSWIC
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:35 am to JiminyCricket
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so pardon me if I don’t send him a Christmas card.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:38 am to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:07 am to AlterEd
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I get it, brother. But if there is one thing this thing has taught me its patience.
I scanned through most of this thread. There is one thing I didn't see. Patience. You Poly-board naggers are anything but patient. What is this, page 15? It's really annoying to see this type of diatribe dominate the Politics board.
What did Nick Reiner say today? Let's dissect it to get the real meaning! No. Let's. Not. That's what I got from this thread. Do better.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:57 am to mjfrog93
Yeah, this thread is like a MMA style debate between Vivek and Thomas Sowell in his prime. Booms and blood and common respect if not love after the fight.
Re the hope of turning things around minus the booms and blood, I think that the Republican RINOs are setting us up for just that if they don’t address the Gerrymandering and drop the Filibuster. Those will be key in the Mids as the fight for formal and brute force power takes center stage in this fight.
Interesting Thread. If one is not a Progressive wuss that would have started screaming 3 pages in.
Good work and good night.
Re the hope of turning things around minus the booms and blood, I think that the Republican RINOs are setting us up for just that if they don’t address the Gerrymandering and drop the Filibuster. Those will be key in the Mids as the fight for formal and brute force power takes center stage in this fight.
Interesting Thread. If one is not a Progressive wuss that would have started screaming 3 pages in.
Good work and good night.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:24 am to SallysHuman
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You were already informed about OP trolling.
No one else seriously discussed yeeting Vivek.
eta... considering the OP dropped a post and ran, and you so valiantly carry his water... what are the odds that Hank and Boar are the same?
I didn't run. I dropped a post and went to sleep.
The issue herein is not trolling. It is a real issue, one that is being directly presented to Vivek Ramaswamy.
And it is one that addresses what is an American, with two drastically different options. On the one hand, there are people such as President Reagan and Vivek Ramaswamy, who recognize that anyone in the world can become an American, regardless of country of birth, religion, race, or ethnicity, because being an American is based upon ideals. As I quoted Ramaswamy in the first post:
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The alternative (and, in my view, correct) vision of American identity is based on ideals.
Americanness isn’t a scalar quality that varies based on your ancestry. It’s binary: Either you’re an American or you’re not. You are an American if you believe in the rule of law, in freedom of conscience and freedom of expression, in colorblind meritocracy, in the U.S. Constitution, in the American dream, and if you are a citizen who swears exclusive allegiance to our nation.
As Ronald Reagan quipped, you can go to live in France, but you can’t become a Frenchman; but anyone from any corner of the world can come to live in the United States and become an American. No matter your ancestry, if you wait your turn and obtain citizenship, you are every bit as American as a Mayflower descendant, as long as you subscribe to the creed of the American founding and the culture that was born of it. This is what makes American exceptionalism possible.
Then on the other hand there are increasingly vocal people like Nick Fuentes, David Duke, and to an extent, trump, who are trying to define being an American in terms of racist tribalism and identity politics. You are correct in concluding that I completely disagree with such people.
White supremacy and white nationalism are disgusting. And when a politician receives an endorsement from a white supremacist, the appropriate response is to clearly repudiate it, and offer a better vision for America like Ramaswamy has done. You should not take the opportunity to say that there are "very fine people on both sides", as trump did.
I am pleasantly surprised and encouraged by the discussion here following Ramaswamy's comments.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:58 am to AlterEd
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Yes, unfortunately a lot of people on the right are fricking racists. And it's getting worse by the day.
Nah, we just don't like shitty arse people/cultures who happen to be other colors most of the time.
It's pretty simple.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:21 am to SallysHuman
Well said
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:23 am to AlterEd
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Yes, unfortunately a lot of people on the right acknowledge patterns and trends. And it's making them aware that if they want to actually improve as a society it’s important to make a society that adapts to these differences.
FIFY
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:44 am to AlterEd
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My racist comments were aimed at the people in the OP who are wanting Vivek "sent back." To where? He was fricking born in Ohio and has lived in America his entire life.
Where the frick do you get "people"?
You posted an article by ONE guy.
Then you generalized it to a group of people.
Now who is the "racist"?
frick you.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:58 am to SallysHuman
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Trick question if I ever saw one.
In general the ideals that are "American" are mostly held by white people. Not all white people. But white people.
Don't believe me? Ask the muthafukkin Smithsonian what "whiteness" is- the Smithsonian definition includes these "American" traits.
Yes. Being American is white-centric... but not because of racist exclusion- it is because other people groups just don't view Americanism the same. Again- Generally Speaking.
Another tack... not all white people are very "American", but most "Americans" are white people.
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