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Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:51 pm to
Yessir, and much more, anyway, here is Tel Aviv tonight.
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This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86923 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:53 pm to
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What's dumb is thinking God or Jesus have anything to do with what people in America think about Israel. Or that we as Americans must blindly follow or worship the State of Israel.
That has zero to do with your earlier idiotic statement.


OTOH, if you do not support Israel, you probably beheaded cats as a youth.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11569 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:58 pm to
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No. It's YOUR language that I am calling out. It's much the same as the man who tried to exterminate them. To you, it's because they were the problem. It's what you stated. It's your words.



You must have failed World History in school. You have been throwing around the term 'ignorant' yet you dispute a simple historical fact.

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implying it was their own fault that it happened... as if they deserved it.



I did no such thing. I stated a historical fact that goes back all the way to biblical times.

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they got what they deserved



Nowhere have I said this. It is you projecting. Me or anyone else on here not supporting Israel or 'Palestine' or any other country in that region does not make one:

A bigot
An anti-semite
A Nazi sympathizer
A Nazi
Hitler
A racist

You have been programmed for some bizarre reason to worship Israel as something that cannot be criticized or scrutinized. That's beyond ridiculous. We as Americans owe them nothing. We don't have to kowtow or agree with every move they make. Israel is not infallible.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11569 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:59 pm to
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OTOH, if you do not support Israel, you probably beheaded cats as a youth.


I love cats. I have one. Israel is a shithole Welfare State that is propped up by American money and military.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55551 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:01 pm to
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Going by that answer and your own logic what War did the people who occupy Israel win in 1945? What entitled them to those lands?




First of all, There has always been Jewish people there.

Second... The 1947–1948 civil war.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4977 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:02 pm to
I wonder why they just don't move to Florida. Same type climate and no Muzzies, only white trash and retirees.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:03 pm to
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Why are you defending one side over the other


the side that continually throws rockets into Israel is fricking retarded.

Palestinians are tools of really horrible people who live elsewhere and use them to do their dirty work.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11569 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:04 pm to
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First of all, There has always been Jewish people there.

Second... The 1947–1948 civil war.


What War did Jewish people win in 1945 that entitled them to those lands? What war did Jewish people win in 1945 that was the cause of those military men and politicians to meet in a boardroom to pick one of four places on a map for a State of Israel to be created? See the issue here with your logic and the logic of others on here?
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 3:04 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:06 pm to
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zatetic



Is that a babylon bee article???
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

What War did Jewish people win in 1945 that entitled them to those lands? What war did Jewish people win in 1945 that was the cause of those military men and politicians to meet in a boardroom to pick one of four places on a map for a State of Israel to be created? See the issue here with your logic and the logic of others on here?




What war did the United States win to entitle it?

Before you say the Revolutionary War...that war was to DEFEND the "country" that was established by a group of people simply 'Declaring' it to exist.

Same thing here. Israel had a document "declaring" its existence. It immediately fought a war to defend its existence.

Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7659 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:10 pm to
Most of US would not be welcome there.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55551 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

You must have failed World History in school. You have been throwing around the term 'ignorant' yet you dispute a simple historical fact.


Pure ignorance.

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I did no such thing. I stated a historical fact that goes back all the way to biblical times.



Yes, you implied it. You clearly stated: Israel has been kicked all over the globe throughout time.

Your reasoning is that it's their own fault because: They couldn't play nice with anyone.

Your words.

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Nowhere have I said this. It is you projecting. Me or anyone else on here not supporting Israel or 'Palestine' or any other country in that region does not make one:

A bigot
An anti-semite
A Nazi sympathizer
A Nazi
Hitler
A racist



Wrong again. As I clearly have a record of here, I'm pro being out of the ME. Period.

No. I'm not calling out anybody else in this thread that does not. Just you. Why? Your Words!

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You have been programmed for some bizarre reason to worship Israel as something that cannot be criticized or scrutinized.


BS! Ignorance again.

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11569 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

What war did the United States win to entitle it?


What were the four other choices for where the United States could possibly be located in those discussions like Israel was afforded? Tell me.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7659 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:10 pm to
The Onion
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11569 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

They couldn't play nice with anyone.


This is basic historical fact. Again, it can't be a coincidence that they have had issues every single place they tried to settle. There is thousands of years of evidence backing this up. It's history. Ignorance? Not by me.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:13 pm to
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What were the four other choices for where the United States could possibly be located in those discussions like Israel was afforded? Tell me.



That is an irrelevancy. Once a decision is made, it is made.

A nation exists on two principles (fundamentally)
Can it be defended (either by itself or via strategic allies)
Does the "world" acknowledge it as it claims.


Israel fits BOTH of those. You can try to time-travel back to 1940's. But, TODAY...a nation exists and it should be dealt with in reality...not "fan fiction"
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14813 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:15 pm to
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I love cats. I have one


Shockerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11569 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:16 pm to
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That is an irrelevancy.


You aren't comparing apples to apples. The people of Israel won no war in 1945 that lead to a choice of where the people would settle and have a nation state in 1948. It was decided for them by picking one of many possible places on a map. The United States has never been under such a situation. In fact, there is no other sovereign nation in the world that was afforded such.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86923 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

I love cats. I have one
I am sure you will be eating it soon.

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Israel is a shithole Welfare State that is propped up by American money and military.


So what?
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