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re: Jeffery killed himself
Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:59 am to SuperSaint
Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:59 am to SuperSaint
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he chose the smart path.
And just like that the sighs of relief from so many co-conspirators went up that the DEMocrats thought climate change was happening.
Lots of smiles in the various Clinton cults - what a fortunate choice for THEM.
And not that it was predicted by about 90% of the population the moment they put him in prison.
Who wudda thunk it?? What on earth could be done to prevent it ????
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 8:00 am
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:00 am to Rebel
Agree, but he realized he wasn't untouchable when the hammer got brought down and he became a household name. Both left and right were doing everything they could to distance themselves from him and his past, the jig was up.
Don't you think if he held some secrets on Trump or even Clinton thsthe would have not been offed way before he became a household name? Then the hands that be decided to go ahead and whack him after he is in custody.
Don't you think if he held some secrets on Trump or even Clinton thsthe would have not been offed way before he became a household name? Then the hands that be decided to go ahead and whack him after he is in custody.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:02 am to thewhirlwind
I thought I read this morning he was moved out of solitary confinement or suicide watch.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:03 am to SuperSaint
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Don't you think if he held some secrets on Trump or even Clinton thsthe would have not been offed way before he became a household name?
Strange sequence of associates there = 'secrets on TRUMP???"
or "EVEN CLINTON>>?"
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:06 am to ChineseBandit58
I mean frick I don't know just saying everyone has put Trump's live under unparalleled scrutiny for the past 3.5 years. You think anyone trying to become president would let some weasel running around with dirt on them in that environment?
The more assumptions made the more unlikely of a scenario
The more assumptions made the more unlikely of a scenario
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:07 am to SuperSaint
quote:The man is one of the higher profile prisoners MCC has held. Despite that, the guy had some sort of "accident" in July. Whatever occurred left Epstein semiconscious. MCC officials claim they somehow "could not determine" what Epstein's "accident" entailed. The failure to determine what happened inside the MCC in July is bizarre -- at best.
Jeffery killed himself
Bunch of idiots on TD these days.
Now we have a scenario regarding the same guy, where MCC protocol(s) were ignored. Epstein ends up dead. Without obvious circumvention of protocol, Epstein would be alive.
Once can be an accident. Twice almost certainly is not. Occam's Razor
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:12 am to SuperSaint
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Bunch of idiots on TD these days.
Absolutely.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:16 am to NC_Tigah
Well if that 'guy' ends up falling down his stairs next week in a freak accident and dies maybe you guys can start building some half-assed case, but right now it's a wasted mental exercise. But many of you guys find a new conspiracy every couple days so maybe it's fun and entertainment
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:19 am to NC_Tigah
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Once can be an accident. Twice almost certainly is not. Occam's Razor
So much so that everyone with a room temp IQ knew that he'd never survive long enough to testify.
I'm thinking there are more huge connections other than the just the obvious Clinton and the British Royals we already know of. .
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:20 am to SuperSaint
Dude, there was a collective WTF heard round the world with this news yesterday, whether you lean right or left, and to pass it off as just a routine suicide is simply ignorance.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:22 am to 9th life
You are accepting unverified sources as well. I am asking a simple question. How did he do it?
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:23 am to PhDoogan
Yeah the circumstances made everyone go 'Damn what a coincidence' but anyone with a brain knows there isn't anything but silly assumptions but some are wanting to completely gloss over the most rational event
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:23 am to SuperSaint
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Well if that 'guy' ends up falling down his stairs next week in a freak accident and dies
quote:Do you comprehend what is being discussed here? If Epstein bribed MCC personnel to "look the other way", is that "conspiracy"?
a new conspiracy
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:24 am to SuperSaint
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Bunch of idiots on TD these days.
Dude didn't want to live in prison for the rest of his life as a known pedophile, he chose the smart path.
Occam's Razor
Not a scientific theory, so you are using AOC logic.
Did you use the same principle to dispute the Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy theory?
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:26 am to SuperSaint
I know if I had a ton of names and leverage I would kill myself also.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:27 am to SuperSaint
It's a silly assumption to just assume it was a simple suicide.
OUR GOVERNMENT KILLS PEOPLE AND OUR MEDIA IS PROPAGANDA YOU frickING IDIOT.
OUR GOVERNMENT KILLS PEOPLE AND OUR MEDIA IS PROPAGANDA YOU frickING IDIOT.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:28 am to SuperSaint
A suicide while on suicide watch makes it suspicious, and not irrational to question the circumstances.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:28 am to NC_Tigah
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Do you comprehend what is being discussed here? If Epstein bribed MCC personnel to "look the other way", is that "conspiracy"?
He doesn't know the definitions of words, don't bother.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:30 am to SuperSaint
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Bunch of idiots on TD these days.
This is the “normal” critiquing the hypersane (what this board is becoming)
https://aeon.co/ideas/the-hypersane-are-among-us-if-only-we-are-prepared-to-look?fbclid=IwAR0WFmNjnuLwWR5KvTNEo32p_VI_2Md-jvAdH7hlGjO0o_Pvr6YMGx26U8o
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The hypersane are among us, if only we are prepared to look
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‘Hypersanity’ is not a common or accepted term. But neither did I make it up. I first came across the concept while training in psychiatry, in The Politics of Experience and the Bird of Paradise (1967) by R D Laing. In this book, the Scottish psychiatrist presented ‘madness’ as a voyage of discovery that could open out onto a free state of higher consciousness, or hypersanity. For Laing, the descent into madness could lead to a reckoning, to an awakening, to ‘break-through’ rather than ‘breakdown’.
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The Laingian concept of hypersanity, though modern, has ancient roots. Once, upon being asked to name the most beautiful of all things, Diogenes the Cynic (412-323 BCE) replied parrhesia, which in Ancient Greek means something like ‘uninhibited thought’, ‘free speech’, or ‘full expression’. Diogenes used to stroll around Athens in broad daylight brandishing a lit lamp. Whenever curious people stopped to ask what he was doing, he would reply: ‘I am just looking for a human being’ – thereby insinuating that the people of Athens were not living up to, or even much aware of, their full human potential.
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Jung and Diogenes came across as insane by the standards of their day. But both men had a depth and acuteness of vision that their contemporaries lacked, and that enabled them to see through their facades of ‘sanity’. Both psychosis and hypersanity place us outside society, making us seem ‘mad’ to the mainstream. Both states attract a heady mixture of fear and fascination. But whereas mental disorder is distressing and disabling, hypersanity is liberating and empowering.
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After reading The Politics of Experience, the concept of hypersanity stuck in my mind, not least as something that I might aspire to for myself. But if there is such a thing as hypersanity, the implication is that mere sanity is not all it’s cracked up to be, a state of dormancy and dullness with less vital potential even than madness. This I think is most apparent in people’s frequently suboptimal – if not frankly inappropriate – responses, both verbal and behavioural, to the world around them. As Laing puts it:
The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious, of being out of one’s mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society highly values its normal man. It educates children to lose themselves and to become absurd, and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last 50 years. Many ‘normal’ people suffer from not being hypersane: they have a restricted worldview, confused priorities, and are wracked by stress, anxiety and self-deception. As a result, they sometimes do dangerous things, and become fanatics or fascists or otherwise destructive (or not constructive) people. In contrast, hypersane people are calm, contained and constructive. It is not just that the ‘sane’ are irrational but that they lack scope and range, as though they’ve grown into the prisoners of their arbitrary lives, locked up in their own dark and narrow subjectivity. Unable to take leave of their selves, they hardly look around them, barely see beauty and possibility, rarely contemplate the bigger picture – and all, ultimately, for fear of losing their selves, of breaking down, of going mad, using one form of extreme subjectivity to defend against another, as life – mysterious, magical life – slips through their fingers.
We could all go mad, in a way we already are, minus the promise. But what if there were another route to hypersanity, one that, compared with madness, was less fearsome, less dangerous, and less damaging? What if, as well as a backdoor way, there were also a royal road strewn with sweet-scented petals? After all, Diogenes did not exactly go mad. Neither did other hypersane people such as Socrates and Confucius, although the Buddha did suffer, in the beginning, with what might today be classed as depression.
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Besides Jung, are there any modern examples of hypersanity? Those who escaped from Plato’s cave of shadows were reluctant to crawl back down and involve themselves in the affairs of men, and most hypersane people, rather than courting the limelight, might prefer to hide out in their back gardens.
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While they might seem to be living in a world of their own, this is only because they have delved more deeply into the way things are than those ‘sane’ people around them.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:31 am to PhDoogan
Well im sure people will look into how it went down and a time line. No need to go assuming he was murdered when his best option was suicide over jail
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