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re: Jesus was from Nazareth
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:04 am to Errerrerrwere
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:04 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:He is salvation and in that same passage in John 4, He said “salvation is from the Jews”, speaking of Himself.
He'd have to deny it for it to be true?
He was called a Jew more than once and never denied it. Pilate called Him a Jew in John 18. It was inscribed and put on the cross that He was king of the Jews, and the Jews did not deny that He was Jewish, but only that He was their king.
quote:Israel means multiple things in the New Testament. You are focusing on the geographical distinction between the northern and southern kingdoms, but “Israel” refers to several things, including the people of YAHWEH, who descended from Jacob, renamed Israel. This people were also called the Jews, of whom Jesus descended.
No it definitely doesn't suffice. How do the Jews have a claim to Israel if Judaea was at war with Israel?
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Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:05 am to Errerrerrwere
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Go on
Read back to my previous comment here about the Judges (Israel’s 1st government). This was setup prior to any Egyptian-like temple business by Moses and his Midianite FIL.
What happened from there is history: the Levites (Phineas) killed the judges and setup Egyptian temple system that we know and love today. Levi… Leviathan
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:07 am to Errerrerrwere
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He was a Nazarene. Nazarene was in Galilee and Galilee was in Israel. Not Judaea. Making Jesus NOT a Jew.
Before you start on his parents, He was born of a virgin mother and His Father was not of this world.
Is it important for the Christian faith to understand these simple and factual interpretations in today's political climate? Where we, Christians, are somehow being trauma bonded by the Jewish faith?
There seems to be a pull that is trying to conflate the two religions. We may share common values but the faiths are very much different.
Scripture clearly indicates that Jesus was a descendant of David both from Mary and legally through his earthly legal father Joseph. Jesus was a Jew at least in the ways we perceive people to be of certain groups. Obviously Jesus is divine and above all that...BUT Jesus was the fulfillment of what the chosen Jewish people failed to do. Its why he basically retraced the steps of the Jews from the Old Testament. He perfectly fulfilled what Jews didnt.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:07 am to Errerrerrwere
Jesus is a Jewish man born of a Jewish woman and he prayed at the Jewish temple. He was a textbook Jew cut the crap
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 12:20 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:08 am to Errerrerrwere
Looking forward to your next guest appearance on Tucker or Candace!
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:15 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:
Before you start on his parents, He was born of a virgin mother and His Father was not of this world.
Jews base being a jew off the mother not the father. If your mother’s a Jew then you are a Jew. If your father is a Jew and your mother is not then you aren’t a Jew. So this isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
Reform Judaism accepts either parent to make you a Jew.
It actually again aligns great with the bible. Because Jesus’s mom was a Jew (even though it was a virgin birth) it makes him a Jew because she still carried him and was his mother.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 12:20 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:15 am to scottydoesntknow
Which Gospel lineage is real? Matthew or Luke?
If anyone cares to look ?? The differences are “Levitical” or priestly names.
If anyone cares to look ?? The differences are “Levitical” or priestly names.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:18 am to Errerrerrwere
Pilate seemed pretty convinced
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:19 am to UncleLogger
quote:Both are “real”.
Which Gospel lineage is real? Matthew or Luke?
Matthew and Luke have different audiences in mind with different purposes. Matthew records Jesus’ legal genealogy through Joseph while Luke records His biological genealogy through Mary.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:21 am to UncleLogger
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Which Gospel lineage is real? Matthew or Luke?
They both are. Luke is tracing Jesus' blood lineage through His mother
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 7:06 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:21 am to BigBinBR
quote:
Jews base being a jew off the mother not the father. If your mother’s a Jew then you are a Jew. If your father is a Jew and your mother is not then you aren’t a Jew. So this isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
Wasn't supposed to be a gotcha.
Look I'll base my argument in the OP and bow out. The term "Jew" native to Judah is a very much different definition then the term Judaism. And you can clearly decipher those two different terms at different time periods of history yourself.
Another point I made is his strong criticism of the Pharisee's. And although this may be my weakest argument; they obviously had strong criticism of Him as well.
And the lineage from His father making him Devine doesn't sit well with his human lineage.
So maybe both sides are right?
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 12:33 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:22 am to Boodis Man
Was Herod a Jew?
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:24 am to Errerrerrwere
Might as well be arguing over what a unicorns favorite food is...
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:26 am to UncleLogger
Wasn't he from Idumea?
From my definition in the OP that would be no?
From my definition in the OP that would be no?
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:28 am to Azkiger
quote:God is real. Christ is God and Lord. You owe your existence and obedience to Him. He is no unicorn.
Might as well be arguing over what a unicorns favorite food is...
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:30 am to FooManChoo
He went to the temple and called it his father's house. The temple was destroyed AFTER the crucifixion.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:32 am to scottydoesntknow
No. Matthew is just plugging Kingly legitimacy. While Nathan/Simeon/Levi among the other line tells the tale. All the Egyptian based names are scrubbed.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:33 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:
He was a Nazarene. Nazarene was in Galilee and Galilee was in Israel. Not Judaea. Making Jesus NOT a Jew.
Nobody gives a shite about where the first recorded zombie grew up.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:36 am to Errerrerrwere
He was an Idumean with a Samaritan mother.
Idumean forced to convert to Judaism. Not a Jew by any stretch but this is the lay of the land.
People tying Jews to Biblical stories don’t know what the frick they’re talking about.
Idumean forced to convert to Judaism. Not a Jew by any stretch but this is the lay of the land.
People tying Jews to Biblical stories don’t know what the frick they’re talking about.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 12:41 am to UncleLogger
So, it's safe to say Matthew was written by Jews for a Jewish audience?
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