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re: Just a reminder that only 6% of the Southern population owned slaves
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:28 pm to Buryl
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:28 pm to Buryl
quote:Correct. The Civil War might be the only war ever where the losers actually go to write the history books.
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Just remember that his(story) is always written by the victors which was the North in this case. Gotta believe they were more than eager to distort the facts to make themselves look better
Not accurate. The "Lost Cause" mythology was perpetrated throughout the southern states by a host of interested parties, but primarily the United Daughters of the Confederacy.
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Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:30 pm to GreenRockTiger
Those numbers he gave are incorrect.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:31 pm to Madking
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Thinking the Civil War had anything to do with morality is about as naive and childish a notion to ever exist.
Like I said earlier, for a lot it was more about slavery slowing down economic progress. They'd preach about free laborers not having to compete with slave labor.
Regardless of the north's motivation (there were still a lot who felt it was morally reprehensible), the south fought to keep slavery. Long and short of it.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:31 pm to Big Scrub TX
Wow
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:31 pm to victoire sécurisé
quote:it's plain as day to you bc you've been brainwashed to think that, maybe even by your own logic. Some of us know and understand better than you do. I used to think that same ignorant way when I was young and ignorant. And then I learned that a lot of things I thought were plain as the sky were not the truth. The fault lies with you I assure you. Look deeper to understand.
I can’t understand why people cannot admit that the war was about white supremacy and the right to own negro slaves.
This is as plain as the blue sky, yet people continue to deny it. Why?
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:32 pm to mister coffee
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not at first, sure
After they seceded, all bets were off
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:33 pm to elprez00
quote:Anyone who tries to argue that the war wasn't about slavery won't be argued against but will merely be personally attacked.
You’re right but you won’t win this argument. People will never look at the context of the war anymore.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:33 pm to arcalades
I think the brainwashing may be the other way around.
When they talked about protecting states rights, it was the right to own slaves.
When they talked about protecting property, that property was slaves. That's how they were viewed.
When they talked about protecting states rights, it was the right to own slaves.
When they talked about protecting property, that property was slaves. That's how they were viewed.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:33 pm to mister coffee
Agree mostly but there were portions of the south who fought for other reasons which is why they continued to fight long after the war was over. These groups were never slave owners most of them.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:36 pm to Madking
quote:This is how we ended up with military bases and ships named after traitors. What other country has ever had that?
Wow
The history is not obscure - it's only unknown to you because you've never been taught it.
e.g. The bases were named after traitors because - 50 years after they lost the war - the south was still butthurt about losing. However, the feds needed fresh cannon fodder to send to Europe for WW1, so Woodrow Wilson actively courted the southern population by pandering to their bruised egos.
Imagine if the UK had "Washington Square" as some hallowed space.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:37 pm to G The Tiger Fan
There’s a reason the North had no plan to integrate ex-slaves into society. There’s a reason they destroyed personal non military related property. There’s a reason they destroyed communities and farms after the war was over. None of this is in keeping with freeing slaves.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:37 pm to Big Scrub TX
Wrong, so shallow and ignorant.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:39 pm to Big Scrub TX
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so Woodrow Wilson actively courted the southern population by pandering
Damn, sounds a lot like modern day Democrats trying to keep the black vote on board.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:39 pm to Madking
quote:Because the North was just as racist as the South. The idea that most Northern soldiers would fight to free slaves is silly.
There’s a reason the North had no plan to integrate ex-slaves into society.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:40 pm to Madking
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Agree mostly but there were portions of the south who fought for other reasons which is why they continued to fight long after the war was over. These groups were never slave owners most of them.
Some of the post civil war stuff is pretty horrible as well. I haven't been able to read up on it just yet. Juneteenth celebrates Texas finally freeing slaves. The emancipation proclamation had already happened but word took a while to reach all of Texas. Slavery wasn't officially illegal until the 13th amendment was finally accepted into the constitution until 2 years after Lincoln's address.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:41 pm to G The Tiger Fan
A lot of the northern army was comprised of immigrants who hadn’t been on American soil for 24 hours yet. Real humanitarians lol.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:41 pm to Madking
Yes, I know ... they're MADE UP.
At the time, 50% of Mississippi's population was probably slaves.
At the time, 50% of Mississippi's population was probably slaves.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
Did you go to LSU? One of the history professors was real big on calling it "the war of northern aggression"
This was in the late 90s and early 2000s.
This was in the late 90s and early 2000s.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:43 pm to Madking
Lincoln must've saw all the Southern proclamations regarding leaving the Union to protect slavery, immediately changed his thinking, became an anti-racist, then scoured the world for young, abolitionist men who could fight his war against those racist Southerners so Lincoln could finally rid the world of the only place where slavery ever existed, the American South.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 5:43 pm to GreenRockTiger
I meant in the case of trying to portray that the South was financially poor at the time.
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