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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Why is prostitution still illegal?



War on Women
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36995 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:47 pm to
fine there is still a black market, there is one for alcohol so what? Let's see what was the bigger problem prohibition type violence or moonshiners today?

there is a black market for everything. black market does not = violence, sex trafficing, human trading and under age girls every where etc.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36995 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:49 pm to
and please give me reasons why it should stay illegal. I have an open mind, I am just of the reasoning that laws do not stop or deter certain behaviors, they just cost us money in the form of incarceration, enforcement, etc and they just cost us rights like no knock warrents, illegal wire tapping, etc
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:51 pm to
I would also like to add that I know for a fact that someone who worked at a police station was a virgin when he turned 21 and the COPS chipped in and bought the guy a hooker.

Real talk
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11720 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

lsu777


If you want to see the reasons why he thinks prostitution should be illegal, go to this thread: LINK

If you don't want to read it all: he's fearful that his future daughter will become a prostitute, and he needs it to be a crime so he can teach her right from wrong.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36995 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:59 pm to
might be the dumbest reason I have ever heard in my life. I am fearful my kids will be killed in a car wreck, I dont want cars made illegal.


and makeing something legal does not mean we are teaching our children it is an ok thing to do. That is up to the parents. Herion could become legal tomorrow, guess what I still wouldn't use it and nobody I know would either just because it is legal. By making it legal you are teaching your kids that you can not legislate morality and that you can not control what others do/like etc and that trying to legislate behavior only leads to a thriving violent black market.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11720 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:05 pm to
Yea. I think he honestly believes that the minute prostitution is legalized, everyone woman in the country will immediately become a prostitute and forego even attempting to have a moral life.

Basically, the country descends into the depths of Sodom and Gommorah in a matter of seconds.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

in no way shape or form should a federal tax be placed on it.

Well, they would start paying federal income tax on it. I can see where someone may be against all federal income tax on principle, but if I'm going to pay income tax, I think the hos should too.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36995 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:15 pm to
income tax is fine I meant placing it on the business. I am against federal taxes the way they are now but i agree if i have to pay income tax they should be too.
Posted by SettleDown
Everywhere
Member since Nov 2013
1333 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Political pandering.

Yep. And the fact that in our country, dumb fricks confuse allowing someone the FREEDOM to do a thing with SUPPORTING that thing.

Hence, no politician wants to be labeled the "pro-prostitution" guy.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36995 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

dumb fricks confuse allowing someone the FREEDOM to do a thing with SUPPORTING that thing


you pretty much summed up my feelings on why most things are illegal.

I could make this same thread about steroids, and people are going to say it is cheating, keep it out of sports, keep it away from children etc.

Bottomline is no proffessional athlete has went to prison for steroids and the normal gym rat isn't cheating anybody and allowing a black market allows children easier access to things.

same thing for weed, prostitution, etc
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:11 pm to
quote:


price competition =/= black market


This isn't about price competition.

All legal prostitutes will have the same overhead costs such as license fees, taxes, monthly medical tests, etc. so they will have to charge a higher price for their service than woman who are not legal prostitutes but are desperate to make some fast easy money.

Just because prostitution is made legal that won't mean there won't still be a black market especially since it is so easy for a woman to be a prostitute and it takes practically no financial investment other than the cost of a box of condoms and a motel room.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

fine there is still a black market, there is one for alcohol so what?


So asserting if prostitution is legal there won't be a black market for prostitution is incorrect.

So that can't be used as a reason to legalize prostitution. That's all.


Let's see what was the bigger problem prohibition type violence or moonshiners today? [/quote]

Most moonshiners have become pot growers and there is still a lot pot growing violence.

quote:

there is a black market for everything. black market does not = violence, sex trafficing, human trading and under age girls every where etc.


The black market in prostitution does = violence, sex trafficking, human trading and under age girls every where, etc. so if making prostitution legal won't stop all those things from happening then why make prostitution legal?


Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

and please give me reasons why it should stay illegal. I have an open mind, I am just of the reasoning that laws do not stop or deter certain behaviors, they just cost us money in the form of incarceration, enforcement, etc and they just cost us rights like no knock warrents, illegal wire tapping, etc



I'm not going over all of my reasons for opposing the legalization again but you can read them in the other threads on the subject.

However, let me ask you one question.

Do you want your daughter to grow up thinking that being a prostitute is a legitimate future job option?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:43 pm to
quote:


If you don't want to read it all: he's fearful that his future daughter will become a prostitute, and he needs it to be a crime so he can teach her right from wrong.


Wrong.


I'm fearful lsu777's future daughter will become a prostitute.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 7:48 pm to
Moral Clause
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:01 pm to
quote:



and makeing something legal does not mean we are teaching our children it is an ok thing to do. That is up to the parents. Herion could become legal tomorrow, guess what I still wouldn't use it and nobody I know would either just because it is legal. By making it legal you are teaching your kids that you can not legislate morality and that you can not control what others do/like etc and that trying to legislate behavior only leads to a thriving violent black market.


You as a parent can teach your children that you can't legislate morality all you want.

However, in the case of making heroin or any other drug legal to use, at least it will cost your children money to get it to use.

In the case of making prostitution legal, you may personally think by making it legal it is not teaching your children that it is an okay thing to do but if it becomes a legal way to make quick, easy big bucks that will entice your children into considering it a legitimate future job option.

Is that what you want your children to think?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

Yep. And the fact that in our country, dumb fricks confuse allowing someone the FREEDOM to do a thing with SUPPORTING that thing.


Even though allowing someone the FREEDOM to do something isn't supporting that thing, if allowing someone the FREEDOM to do something results in that person making quick, easy big bucks then it will entice your children into considering it a legitimate future job option.

Is that what you want?
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 8:13 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:18 pm to
quote:



Bottom line is no professional athlete has GONE to prison for steroids and the normal gym rat isn't cheating anybody and allowing a black market allows children easier access to things.


FIFY
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11652 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 8:25 pm to
Somebody wants the government to raise our kids. You are the antithesis of small govt.
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