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re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 3:42 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Finally! You are right about something. You are NOT talking to someone who thinks that.
Hmm
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I mean… if I had a nickel for every time he’s called slow and unathletic…
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You think those are unfair characterizations?
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Absolutely
Don’t pull a hammy back pedaling so quickly.
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You are talking to someone who believes its completely irrelevant, yet talked about in NBA circles ad nauseum - and certainly not as a "compliment" FFS
Jokic’s lack of athleticism is brought up just like AI’s height was brought up, just like Steph’s lack of athleticism and just like Brunson’s lack of height AND athleticism is brought up. “Despite not being tall/athletic/etc, look at how much he’s dominating!” You really don’t get that context? No one is surprised when a physical marvel like LeBron dominates. But someone short or slow? Hell yeah it should be brought up!
But go ahead, what’s your Jokic take? That this 3 time MVP, who is consensus best player alive right now by anyone talking basketball with a mic, who is universally lauded by his contemporaries is….being underrated bc he’s white? Media and players don’t think he’s the good? They bring up his lack of athleticism to disparage him bc they are racist?
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re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 3:07 pm to Bard
Thanks for your contribution
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 3:03 pm to Vacherie Saint
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do you ever hear anyone marvel at how elite an NBA player KD is despite being frail and mentally retarded? and why do you think that is?
I’m not talking basketball with someone who thinks Jokic is fast and athletic :lol:
You clearly don’t follow the nba.
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 3:01 pm to Bard
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You're the one making the argument that the original context is missing but refuse to provide it.
Correct, I encourage people to educate themselves. That’s the problem with today’s generation: they want everything spoon fed to them.
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 3:00 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Are you retarded?
You’re the one who thinks Jokic is fast and athletic :rotflmao:
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 2:30 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Absolutely
Wait, let me get this straight. You are trying to argue with a straight face that Jokic is fast and athletic?
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If doesn't affect his ability to be the best in the game, why bring it up?
Umm bc everyone is in awe that the best player on the planet happens to be slow and unathletic. Are you OK?
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Zion for being an overweight sex addict? I could go on forever.
Wtf :lol:
All. The. fricking. Time.
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You can go online and watch hours of podcasts with old NBA legends talking about how high the bar of respect was for white players like Bird and Stockton, or how The Last Dance portrayed the players' attitudes toward people like Kukoc, Kerr, and Wennington. You think those sentiments have changed?
Do you even know what you are arguing at this point? Jokic might win his 4th MVP in a few months. He is the consensus, best player alive. His slowness and unathleticness is almost always brought up with a positive spin, meant to highlight how exceptional he is at everything else to still be the best. Stephen A repeats all the time “no muscle definition, can’t jump on a curb…and you can’t stop the man!”
You trying to be offended on Jokic’s behalf is mind numbing to me.
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 1:36 pm to High C
Perk’s take is about 100x more retarded than KD’s
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 1:18 pm to IAmNERD
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guess you missed my initial comment on all of them not gaf about the ASG and people hardening back to the days of Kobe, when he would do things like slapping the floor on defense to call out LeBron or him being incredibly irritated at his ASG coach telling him to miss a free throw to let MJ's squad win...
Yep, and then you randomly mentioned Luka's defensive effort in the playoffs and the NBA Finals. Like I said, all over the place.
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 1:16 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I mean… if I had a nickel for every time he’s called slow and unathletic…
You think those are unfair characterizations?
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 1:02 pm to Vacherie Saint
You probably think that's alot more clever than it actually is :lol:
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 1:01 pm to IAmNERD
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I already covered that and its obvious everyone is complaining about the effort of every single player on the court during the ASG. It is a shite product because not a single one of them has any pride in their craft and do not want to be there.
Acting like Jokic, easily the best basketball player in the world right now, has been criticized to the same extent as other lesser than American players for his effort level in the ASG is akin to arguing the mainstream media is unbiased.
Good luck with that :lol:
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 12:59 pm to JiminyCricket
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Just ignore this troll. He won't even provide evidence to defend his original claim. He's just trolling and doesn't want serious discussion.
I'm telling you the sky is blue, and to look up. Can't do more for you, buddy.
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 12:58 pm to IAmNERD
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So you have consumed and kept a tally of every single instance of criticism by talking heads on KD and other black players vs Euro players? And you have determined that KD and the blacks have been disproportionately criticized for their lack of effort?
Are you talking generally here, or have you realized we are only talking about effort in the ASGs? Hard to keep up with you because you seem confused on what the actual topic of discussion is.
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 12:54 pm to IAmNERD
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Luka has been criticized, in fact absolutely publicly blasted even in the NBA Finals, for his lack of effort defensively. He has had the label as a lazy defender for his entire career.
We are singularly and specifically talking about effort level in the ASG. That was the question KD was responding to. Try to stay on topic.
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 12:52 pm to IAmNERD
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No. The criticism of the ASG I have personally seen
That’s probably the problem.
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 12:52 pm to JiminyCricket
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I'm not interested in what others have perceived or assumed was your source material for your claim. It's your claim, provide evidence for your claim. Unless of course you can't and that's why you keep deflecting.
Have a great day, buddy :cheers:
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 12:47 pm to RohanGonzales
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No, we just cannot read your fricking mind. Post what the frick you are talking about or go away.
You are a simp, defending assholes who would hate you by default if they met you.
If you're this easily perturbed, maybe message boards aren't for you :dunno:
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 12:46 pm to JiminyCricket
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More predictably lazy deflections. You're educating others on how to intepret evidence by refusing to do so. Solid work.
Others have had no problem figuring out context on their own. Have you been reading the rest of this thread?
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 12:32 pm to High C
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To be fair, Luka doesn’t seem to give much effort in a lot of regular games, either.
Definitely does on offense.
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My entire point is that when it comes to the ASG, effort is pretty minimal, and it’s not a race thing. As usual with practically any topic, a clear effort is being made to MAKE it a race thing.
Minimal effort is commonplace across the board. But criticism isn't leveled equally across the board. That was KD's point, and its a fair one. His theory is racial. Mine is more to do with nationality. You are free to present yours :dunno:
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 12:29 pm to SludgeFactory
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Oh, so this is one of those times where context matters?
Funny, that same leeway was never given to a certain person your ilk shot in the neck, then danced on his grave like the demons you people are.
JFC :lol:
re: Diversity In Basketball Continues To Trigger Players And Commentators
Posted by onmymedicalgrind on 2/26/26 at 12:28 pm to JiminyCricket
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You're a real winner at presenting your opinions.
I'm well aware, but thanks for the compliment.
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Btw, you may want to eat your own vegetables here because it's been incumbent upon the claim maker to defend their own claims since the dawn of time. It's not the job of the audience to prove your claim for you.
Again, I'm trying to teach people a skill that will last them more than just one message board debate topic. I'm a humanitarian.
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