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Oh frick you man. I’ve put on the uniform of this country because I love this country.

Sincerely, thank you for your service. But sometime between then and now it seems you forgot what you fought for.
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I don’t prefer a government that protects me from potential scary shite. I

Your posts contradict this.

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We should kick out every Muslim based solely on religious grounds, but we can’t and the Muslims know that. We should tell them they aren’t allowed to blast their retarded call to prayers over speakers in public, but we won’t and the Muslims know that

You say should as if it’s anything other than your opinion.

But that’s what I meant by my last post. If you prefer a country more in line with those ideals, America ain’t. We aren’t talking about some fine print or dicta. It’s literally the first amendment. You either support the Constitution or you don’t.

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It has nothing to do with fear and everything to do with preserving the way of life that my ancestors have fought for since Cowpens and Kings Mountain.

You think your ancestors made a clerical error when they put religion as the first right guaranteed by our first amendment?
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Makes one wonder why laws ever change, being handed down from on high as you seem to think. Why are protestors protesting at all if the moral good and the law are coterminous?

Dude are you OK? I made no morality judgments and I never argued laws can’t change. LEOs are not out there making “moral decisions” on the streets. They are tasked with enforcing current law.

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Forget about the discussion of interpretation of the law, or of police discretion, or of judicious enforcement of the law due to limited resources, etc.

It’s clear you are a bit too emotional to discuss this topic rationally. Let me know if that changes.
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Peaceful protesters aren’t the ones being detained. The ones blocking streets, blocking buildings, bum rushing officers are.

Great, so you agree that those that are peacefully protesting should continue not being arrested or detained? So you are in full agreement with this judges ruling? Good to know we have one Constitutional supporter on this board :cheers:


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That should solve any conundrum for you.

The only people in a conundrum right now are the posters twisting themselves into pretzels trying to argue a judge saying “you can’t arrest peaceful protesters” is somehow a bad thing :lol:
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That is all to say that, yes, intentions matter in the realm of protest, whether or not the protester’s actions are technically legal

Law enforcement officers enforce the law. You adding the word “technically” here is irrelevant. Legality is dichotomous. Something is either legal or illegal. If someone is engaged in legal activity that you don’t like…tough titty.
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Are peaceful protestors being arrested?

Idk, I don’t have my boots on the ground following the circumstances behind every arrest. Do you?

I do know that, as someone who is a fan of our Constitution, I have no problem with a judge telling LEOs that peaceful protesters should not be arrested. It’s a kind of “water is wet” statement, so not sure why it’s rustling so many jimmies.
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Any activity that jeopardizes the function and safety of law enforcement officers in their performance of lawful police duties is not a peaceful protest

Great. Looks like you agree that peacefully observing is A-OK in your book.
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But our first amendment would block him from such actions due to religious grounds, would it not?

If freedom causes you this much anxiety and you’d prefer a government that protects you from all the potential scary shite that exists in this world….you’ve got a lot of options of where to live. However, America doesn’t seem to be the right fit.
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I’m willing to bet that your definition of ‘peaceful protest” is different than mine.

However you define it, do you agree that peaceful protesters should not be arrested?

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Furthermore, even protesting by bullhorn marches and making a general disturbance is fruitless unless your intention is to foment an angry action, both for and against.

Your opinion of people’s “intention” is as irrelevant as the price of tea in China. All that matters is if their conduct is Constitutionally protected.
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With what is going on in other countries, Britain in particular, regarding babies in the womb that carry the "downs" marker, what types of decisions can we expect from those mothers with fetuses that carry the "transgender" marker?

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Non US citizens should not have the same rights as citizens. Non citizens should have a limited freedom of speech, freedom of assembly ( as in protesting )

Carry this thought out. Law enforcement sees a group of people peacefully protesting. But in order to do so, everyone must be detained and show their papers to ensure no one is a non citizen. Poof. Now even citizens can’t peacefully protest.
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And if you're really honest with yourself, order is more important than freedom. Pure freedom is anarchy. America and its Constitution were a leftist experiment

It’s truly looney times on the PB :lol:
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The problem with this country is the freedom

JFC.

This board has gone full authoritarian. Two other threads want to arrest “peaceful protesters,” and now this one.
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But that’s not what they are doing. They are obstructing, interfering and tormenting.

I’m sure many are. This ruling doesn’t apply to them. It applies to “peaceful”‘protesters. Is English your second language?
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Also not what they are doing.

Again, if “they” are not “peacefully” protesting, then this doesn’t apply to them. Seriously, why is this so confusing?

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Most everyone here loves the constitution

You surely don’t seem to be a fan of our first amendment.
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How could anyone possibly disagree with that sentence? Every day there are peaceful protesters. And every day there are violent protesters. Peaceful ones need to be allowed to protest peacefully. Violent ones need to be thrown in prison. Because no shite.

They don’t support our Constitution.
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As for all these Judges.....these judges are really pushing the envelope

It’s crazy you guys think not arresting “peaceful protesters” (quoting directly from OP) is pushing the envelope :lol:
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blocked ICE from arresting so-called peaceful protestors.

Umm aren’t we allowed to peaceably protest in this country?

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Judge Menendez also ruled that protestors may ‘safely’ follow ICE vehicles.

The right to peacefully observe government employees in the performance of their duties has been well established for a long time in this country. It’s crazy how may of you no longer support our Constitution.
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1) Do you generally pay much attention to these people or give much weight to what they have to say?

Not one bit.

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2) Do you think it's appropriate for them to use awards shows to push their various agendas?

I have no problem with this. Like it or not, they have “earned” their platforms and are free to do with it what they wish.

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3) Did you prefer it when late-night talk shows were almost exclusively focused on entertainment, or do you prefer the highly political direction followed by hosts like Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert.

No one GAF about late night talk shows anymore. Times have changed.
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How does rioting, intimidation and interference with lawful immigration enforcement ensure accountability?

They wouldn’t, but an arbitrary 100 ft halo sure would (which is what I was responding to—try to keep up).
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Courts have consistently ruled you're wrong about that, Mr. Clarence Darrow.

You are correct. However, what I saw in the video does not meet one of the very narrow exceptions.
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That type of speech is not protected by the first amendment. Those are fighting words, a face to face confrontation likely to provoke violence.

Cursing out, degrading, criticizing, and yelling at officers does not rise to unprotected speech.
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I feel like most of the pothead libertarians have never actually read the writings and context around the bill of rights.

Well there’s been about 250 years of jurisprudence on the first amendment since then…