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re: Let’s assume the jury got it right.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Uh, yeah...hence the charge of falsifying business records
This is adorable.
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Had he paid her directly, none of this was possible.
If you believe this, then you truly are an idiot.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:09 pm to the808bass
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This is adorable.
You must have missed the literal subject of the thread
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Let’s assume the jury got it right.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Try again.
Definitely not a legal scholar
Just making shite up.
What do you do for a living?
Empty trash cans from the boardroom?
Definitely not a legal scholar
Just making shite up.
What do you do for a living?
Empty trash cans from the boardroom?
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Oh yes. We’re in the land of make believe.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:11 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Because it’s a crime for which they’ve actually been triad and convicted of.
One of the potential crimes was the one Cohen already pled to.
And lots of potential state crimes.
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For this conviction to be valid, and the most proximal reason why most believe it will be overturned, the alleged unproven crime(s) the jury believed he committed would have had to be state crimes.
I don't think this is true. People keep repeating it, but they're also forcing in the concept of conviction for that crime (when its' not necessary)
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And again, aside from all that, is the unprecedented nature of telling a jury they don’t have to agree on what the other crime even was. They could each believe something different so long as they each believe it was a felony. That’s unheard of and preposterous.
Yeah that is, but that's not really the subject of this thread.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:12 pm to imjustafatkid
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If you believe this, then you truly are an idiot.
What I said is correct.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:12 pm to pankReb
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well considering neither of these were what he was being charged with.....
You have no idea what he was actually convicted of…because nobody does, you disingenuous frick.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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One of the potential crimes was the one Cohen already pled to.
He pled to this charge to set up this trial. Can I plead guilty to a charge that is nonsense to setup someone else? Seems to be the case.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:12 pm to Tesla
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You have no idea what he was actually convicted of…because nobody does, you disingenuous frick.
This is wrong. We know the paying was part of the crime, specifically.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:13 pm to MurphyGator
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I guess Trump lubes up his dick with Germ X hand sanitizer after he fux porn stars and sluts. That is one thing I've always found him stupid for, claiming to be a germaphone while screwing sluts without wearing a condom. Oh, and pee is sterile is the answer to your Russian hooker question.
Why does everyone automatically assume Trump did anything, much less banged Horse Face Hooker? Because she accused him? Are people not aware she signed a letter admitting she never slept with him?
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:14 pm to the808bass
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He pled to this charge to set up this trial. Can I plead guilty to a charge that is nonsense to setup someone else?
Yes.
You can also be convicted of a crime when the actual crime never occurred.
Conspiracy, attempt, etc.
You can also be convicted of crimes when the state relies on a literal fiction to manufacture the charge (computer solicitation of a minor when its' LEO who converses with the pedo).
Please note: I don't support any of this, but people love the Police State
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
You love it. You just know it’s completely at dissonance with your stated views. So you have to pretend post.
It’s cool. I’m enjoying the posts.
It’s cool. I’m enjoying the posts.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:15 pm to the808bass
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You love it.
I love watching Patriots engage in absolute hypocrisy, not the actual conviction.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
But I think the general consensus is that the OP is a meaningless question because of the nature of the charges. You cannot discuss the theoretical world in which a jury gets a conviction right if the nature of the charges makes them inherently invalid.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, had he paid her directly, all of this BS was not possible.
Is it illegal for a non-disclosure agreement through a lawyer to be coded as a legal expense in the general ledger? Let's take the porn star sex scandal shite out of it. What if it is a former employer at a tech company you needed to pay off so they didn't disclose your company secrets, the law firm drew up the papers and fronted the money. Code as Legal expense. Is that a crime? I'm not aware of any accounting software that has "Non-Disclosure Agreement" as an available GL code.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:19 pm to OysterPoBoy
Let's not....they got it wrong! They were totally consumed with hatred for Trump and ignored the rule of law to arrive at the verdict. This crooked judge along with Alvin Bragg should disbarred. I pray that the Karma Train runs
em both down soon.
em both down soon.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
Uh huh.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:19 pm to Roger Klarvin
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You cannot discuss the theoretical world in which a jury gets a conviction right if the nature of the charges makes them inherently invalid.
The nature of some jury instructions makes the conviction almost assuredly invalid.
The nature of the charge has apparently been litigated a great deal prior to Trump. Hence that jury instruction I posted.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:20 pm to deeprig9
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Is it illegal for a non-disclosure agreement through a lawyer to be coded as a legal expense in the general ledger?
Not in New York.
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What if it is a former employer at a tech company you needed to pay off so they didn't disclose your company secrets,
That's a business expense clearly.
Was Stormy an employee of Trump's companies who wrote the check to Cohen? Was the affair a personal endeavor for Trump or business-related?
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