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re: Let's talk about military spending
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:04 pm to stelly1025
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:04 pm to stelly1025
I watched Kelly's Heroes. That is good enough.
Do you really want to go down this trail? You are probably going to be greatly disappointed. Trust me.
Do you really want to go down this trail? You are probably going to be greatly disappointed. Trust me.
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Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:07 pm to Wolfhound45
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No, it is bothersome that you are such a moron and yet somehow were actually commissioned. The fact you want to be acquainted with goldenugget and Ghazi does not bother me in the least bit.
Okay moron it is obvious you have no concept of each branch of service and it's role so you are just trolling at this point. So eat a dick and catch AIDS or something.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:07 pm to stelly1025
quote:Well that's kinda the point man. I don't care about maintaining a superpower military
You both are idiots to think you can maintain being a military superpower
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:08 pm to stelly1025
Yeah, I thought you were an intellectual giant.
Congrats.
Congrats.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:11 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:And that was the whole point of the thread.
Well that's kinda the point man. I don't care about maintaining a superpower military
But, you know, 'Murica.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:12 pm to stelly1025
Talking to WH like that?
That'll go well.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
He is an internet tough guy. Dime a dozen. 
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:19 pm to stelly1025
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Tell me from your vast military experience how you can win a war by getting rid of the Army and Air Force and building up the Navy?
A strong Navy and Marine Corps with a proper budget would more than handle business.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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A strong Navy and Marine Corps with a proper budget would more than handle business.
How stong?What should be the % of working jets for the Navy?Are the Marines currenty understaffed?You do know they are asking for about 9,000 mord recruits...
Should the Navy have more than 50% operational jets?
please give numbers
What exactly is a "proper budget" of GDP or historic % of the budget?
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:37 pm to RD Dawg
quote:100%
What should be the % of working jets for the Navy?
quote:No
Are the Marines currenty understaffed?
quote:They should be asking for 9,000 less.
You do know they are asking for about 9,000 mord recruits...
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:59 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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They should be asking for 9,000 less.
Really?Give me specific numbers?Why not?Why 30,000 less if 9,000 less is OK?How bout 50,000 less?
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:03 pm to RD Dawg
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How stong?
Very.
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What should be the % of working jets for the Navy?
100%.
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Are the Marines currenty understaffed?
No, we're just not properly allocated.
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You do know they are asking for about 9,000 mord recruits...
Yes.
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Should the Navy have more than 50% operational jets?
Yes.
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What exactly is a "proper budget" of GDP or historic % of the budget?
More than we've ever had before.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:03 pm to RD Dawg
quote:maybe even 110K!!
How bout 50,000 less?
I'd transfer most administrative, logistic and fixed wing capabilities to the Navy if it were up to me.
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:13 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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More than we've ever had before.
So we should be spending more in GDP% and % of our budget than we've ever spent?
I wouldn't even go there...20% of our budget is fine by me but defense spending is always a veriable because its not an entitlment and ALWAYS up for spending cuts.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:16 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I'd transfer most administrative, logistic and fixed wing capabilities to the Navy if it were up to me.
Ok,so what would be your total nunber of armed ready personnel?Call them whatever you want...Marines,Army,Special Forces etc.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:18 pm to RD Dawg
I haven't done the math but maybe 100K hard arse Marines and however many sailors it takes to man 400-500 ships.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:19 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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You can't complain about military spending and then bash Trump for wanting other NATO nations to pony up.
What doesn't make sense is to ask other nations to pony up and then relieve them of the need to do so by spending even more money on protecting them....
What Trump is doing would be akin to a parent telling a ne-er do well child living in the basement that they had to get a job or get out and then putting more of the fricking kids favorite snacks in the fridge and continuing to pay for his cell phone and internet connection.
Actions would speak much louder than words with the world if we simply CUT military spending. The world would have no choice but to up their contribution. Or get in bed with China or Russia...one way or the other they would be off our teat.
Trump is proposing to increase 4% of the world's population portion of the bill for world security to right at 40% of the total annual bill. The cost is not going up 10% so it means that the rest of the world will have the ability to spend 10% less than it would otherwise and maintain the same level of security.
Our Allies have the money to spend to secure themselves...we allow them not to. Increasing our spending will free up even more of their money to subsidize industries and provide free shite to their citizens....while you and I reach deeper into our own pockets or, if Trumps budget is an indication, see all sorts of shite that we provide to people overseas by subsidizing their security costs stripped away from our own citizens....and then, in the ultimate insult, we will see the frickers overseas pretend as if they are competing on a level playing field and many of our own people on the right will agree that they are....
I am all for increasing our military soending...personally I don't think it goes far enough....but anyone who thinks us spending more is going to incentivize our allies to follow suit is just fricking stupid....
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:25 pm to RD Dawg
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So we should be spending more in GDP% and % of our budget than we've ever spent?
Absolutely.
Keep in mind, I'm speaking of the Marine Corps budget specifically.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:25 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
So 100k boots on the ground for our entire armed enforces?That covers all areas including Europe,N Africa,Asia,ME and homefront?
Is that combat only?
Is that combat only?
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:26 pm to RD Dawg
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Call them whatever you want
Call them Marines if you like winning.
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