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re: Let's talk about military spending
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Sounds prejudicial to good order and discipline.
They let us piss where we wanted.
True story. When I was a young Ensign on the Stennis we had one freakin VMFA in the entire Airwing. One squadron.
7200 Sailors and Marines in a CSG and those ~300 were 90% of my problems as an in-port OOD overseas. And that's a carrier.
You served in a MEU, so you know this baw.
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Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:19 pm to Navytiger74
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7200 Sailors and Marines in a CSG and those ~300 were 90% of my problems as an in-port OOD overseas. And that's a carrier.
I've never been so proud.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:21 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:Motherfrickers never lost a fight. I'll give them that.
I've never been so proud.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:26 pm to Navytiger74
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Sounds prejudicial to good order and discipline.
Perks of my job choices.
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You served in a MEU, so you know this baw.
Of course. Best part of my day was listening to the Chiefs and DIVOs bitch to me about my Marines.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:27 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I got nothing
Army Strong has always been my favorite.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:29 pm to Wolfhound45
How does that dude even deploy? Also, the frick is with soldiers wearing PT gear in the chow Hall?
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:33 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:The army doesn't get their Pt uniforms sweaty so it's not unsanitary to eat in them.
How does that dude even deploy? Also, the frick is with soldiers wearing PT gear in the chow Hall?
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:34 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
It's unsanitary to see that dude in PT gear while I'm trying to eat.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I don't think he could even fit in a Humvee. I have several like that in my unit.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:38 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
That's a legitimate point. He sure as hell couldn't get out of one with any amount of speed. I'd hate to see him try to squeeze through a turret or LAV hatch.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Army of One
That may have been the most fitting.
To quote Tony Soprano:
quote:
This army of one thing, what happens when each army of one decides "frick it, i not goin' over the top of the foxhole," or, "why don't we just blow the lieutenant's head off?" Because they've been told, you know, "you're an army of one".
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:44 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
What do you think happens to that dude when they do Humvee rollover training?
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:47 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I'd hope they make his arse run around the fence line until they're done.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:49 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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What do you think happens to that dude when they do Humvee rollover training?
They use Orca as ballast.
Since we're all friends here - I recall going to a joint school way back in the day (early 90s) - it was DLI-Monterey - Army-run, but a joint school with civilians, and linguists of all branches, mostly kids off IET of some sort, mainly E-3s, E-4s and O-1s, with a sprinkling of older folks (by older, I mean 30ish). When the troops were walking around in civilian clothes one couldn't really tell Army and Air Force apart, generally thin, fit youngsters. The Marines were all obvious by the haircut.
The squids were all fat (except the SEAL in my class).
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:51 pm to Ace Midnight
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The squids were all fat
Well, yeah, but we expect that.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:37 pm to Ace Midnight
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It's like a sailor being called a Seaman. Or groups of them being called Seamen.
Well, since they ride around in Boats, wouldn't they rather be named "Boatmen" or "Boatpeople"?
I'm partial to "Boatpeople". For example:
JOIN THE FINEST BOATPEOPLE IN THE WORLD IN THE US NAVY.
Once they fall overboard, then they can more accurately be called "Sea people", because, you know, they are in the Sea at that time.
PS I've thought about this topic a lot over the years. There's always room for more thought. There are no easy solutions, but, Force Structure is interesting to ponder.
PSS Lots of discussion about force structure of AD, Reserve, Guard and lots of thought about the exact role for each component. I didn't see this mentioned, so, I'll leave a link about how Active Duty and National Guard units are re-patching to reflect their association with one another.
10th Mtn Division brigade now wears 36th ID patch.
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 3/19/17 at 3:12 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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How does that dude even deploy? Also, the frick is with soldiers wearing PT gear in the chow Hall?
The army doesn't get their Pt uniforms sweaty so it's not unsanitary to eat in them.
We had a couple of Army guys who had been in Afghanistan come to church in their field uniforms. That is a crappy culture right there. At one of the west coast USMC bases some years ago, you couldn't even DRIVE onto the base in utilities.
When I was at Camp LeJeune in 1982-84 a captain 0-3 went into a bank in utilities and was seen by a colonel. He got commanding general's NJP by General Gray who was later the Commandant. He got a $1,000 fine and 30 days restricted to quarters.
Posted on 3/19/17 at 3:23 am to WhiskeyPapa
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Do you honestly think we are going to publish military doctrine that outlines what our threshold is for use of nuclear weapons? Seriously? That will be an NCA decision anyway.
come on Marine
There are plenty of unclassified sources that discuss our general policies regarding the use of nuclear weapons.
Tactical Nuclear Weapons and NATO
That's a PDF; data from 2012.
US Nuclear and Extended Deterrence
That's a PDF too; data from 2010.
ALL CARDS ON THE TABLE: FIRST-USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS
AL MAURONI AND DAVID JONAS JULY 25, 2016
Recent news that President Obama may be considering changes in nuclear deterrence policy has caused a storm of speculation as to whether the time is right for the U.S. government to declare a no first-use policy. In short, this refers to a policy by a state that possesses nuclear weapons not to use them as a means of warfare unless first attacked by an adversary with nuclear weapons. The United States has never had a no first-use policy, preferring the concept of strategic or calculated ambiguity to suggest that it could respond to a crisis with nuclear weapons, if appropriate, or with the massive use of conventional weapons. Thomas Schelling, who called deterrence “the diplomacy of violence,” reminds us that latent violence may influence a state’s choice and that the threat of more damage to come can make a state yield or comply. One of the rationales for retaining nuclear weapons is to deter an adversarial nation from initiating a conventional war and using its nuclear weapons as a latent threat against U.S. military actions. As a matter of extended deterrence, allies such as Japan and South Korea would like to be assured that the United States will not hesitate to use all means to protect them, given that they have committed to not developing nuclear weapons (per the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty)."
LINK
You can give that a look too.
Posted on 3/19/17 at 3:35 am to Champagne
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Yeah, but, by the look on that Sea Soldier's face, he doesn't like being called a "Sea Soldier".
General LeJeune's message is read probably at every Marine Corps Ball.
The First Birthday Message by Gen John A. Lejeune, 13th Commandant of the Marine Corps
The first CMC's message was issued in Marine Corps Order 47, dated 1 November 1921. Below is the text of this message:
On November 10, 1775, a Corps of Marines was created by a resolution of the Continental Congress. Since that date many thousand men have borne the name Marine. In memory of them it is fitting that we who are Marines should commemorate the birthday of our Corps by calling to mind the glories of its long and illustrious history.
The record of our Corps is one which will bear comparison with that of the most famous military organizations in the world's history. During 90 of the 167 years of its existence the Marine Corps has been in action against the Nation's foes. From the battle of Trenton to the Argonne, Marines have won foremost honors in war, and in the long eras of tranquility at home generation after generation of Marines have grown gray in war in both hemispheres, and in every corner of the seven seas, that our country and its citizens might enjoy peace and security.
In every battle and skirmish since the birth of our Corps Marines have acquitted themselves with the greatest distinction, winning new honors on each occasion until the term "Marine" has come to signify all that is highest in military efficiency and soldierly virtue.
This high name of distinction and soldierly repute we who are Marines today have received from those who preceded us in the corps. With it we also received from them the eternal spirit which has animated our Corps from generation to generation and has been the distinguishing mark of Marines in every age. So long as that spirit continues to flourish Marines will be found equal to every emergency in the future as they have been in the past, and the men of our Nation will regard us as worthy successors to the long line of illustrious men who have served as "Soldiers of the Sea" since the founding of the Corps.
John Lejeune
Lieutenant General
U.S. Marine Corps
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General LeJeune also was first or among the first to set the birth of the Corps back to 1775.
L to R: General Pershing, civilian, General LeJeune and General Butler
The U.S. Marine Corps was created in a batch of legislation that included the Alien and Sedition Act signed by President Adams in 1798.
Adams wrote the first regulations for the Continental Navy - that was in 1775 or 1776.
This post was edited on 3/19/17 at 4:18 am
Posted on 3/19/17 at 4:00 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Let's talk about military spendingPosted on 3/18/17 at 3:19 pm to WhiskeyPapa Dude, you need to stop.
That, or admit you're not really a Marine.
My dad liked that letter.
Battalion Commander's Inspection, 1974
The VIP was the SecDef I believe. I saw Dr. Schlesinger on Simon Lake several times. My mother had this picture for about 25 years. I forgot all about it.
1975, Rota Spain
The USS Belknap collided with USS Kennedy on 11/22/75. At Rota.
Belknap was actually taken out of commission for a time. A sailor paints out the hull number.
This is the Spanish helo carrier Dedalo. She was the former USS Cabot. Planes from this ship attacked Japanese battleship Musashi in the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
On board USS Simon Lake 1976
September 1977. My recruiter promised me I could be a tanker. He lied.
At the Basic School, 1982
October, 1982 Delta Corridor
On Okinawa in the CTA 1983.
Marine Corps Ball, 1983
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