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re: Mexico to reform constitution in wake of US terrorism designations
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:02 am to lake chuck fan
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:02 am to lake chuck fan
It is just political grandstanding for domestic consumption, nothing else.
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:10 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I cant imagine a dumber move IMO. We tried this with middle east terror groups, and they just scatter, multiply then re-unite.
If we invade Mexico, the people of Mexico won't see us as liberators, no matter how much the common man hates the cartels.
Just as people in Iraq and Afghanistan largely didn't see us as liberators, despite hating the ruling factions (AQ, Taliban, etc.).
And, just like with the WOT, with each innocent we kill, we will have entire families/towns turn on us.
We just did this for 20 years and saw how bad of an idea it was and how it couldn't work. And those operations were across the world without much direct impact on our trade. Mexico is one of our larges trading partners
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:11 am to bama1959
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If she is in the pocket of the cartels
She’s not in the pocket of the cartels, she’s a figurehead that was selected by them. Hell, they killed off all of her competitors. Numerous candidates were killed off in the last election.
This won’t happen, but they could be threatened with being a state sponsor of terror and have OFAC sanction them. Give them a taste of the Cuba treatment. I’m sure they’d try to sidle up next to China, but they’re only using Mexico for cheap access to the U.S. market. 92% of Mexico’s exports go to the U.S. would be interesting to see how they’d respond if suddenly that disappeared. There would be a lot of pain at home, but long term you can’t have your next door neighbor run by a criminal organization and continue to associate with them.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 8:12 am
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Once again..... You can't help yourself, you attempt to drill down into whatever issue so far attempting to prop yourself up that you lose sight of the basic truth!
You truly have some sort of serious personality disorder.
SMH... Associates??? It's the fricking cartel!
There ya go. Deflecting. Your never serious about discussing any topic. When your lame arse position is exposed, you attack. Nothing in this thread is about IQ.
I know, your too damaged to get anything I say...
There nothing to help you understand. Your pathology is too ingrained.
You truly have some sort of serious personality disorder.
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The cartels don't really directly operate as much on this side of the border. They have associates run things, for this reason.
SMH... Associates??? It's the fricking cartel!
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Only a sub-85 IQ person would make that interpretation of what I said
There ya go. Deflecting. Your never serious about discussing any topic. When your lame arse position is exposed, you attack. Nothing in this thread is about IQ.
I know, your too damaged to get anything I say...
There nothing to help you understand. Your pathology is too ingrained.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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If we invade Mexico, the people of Mexico won't see us as liberators, no matter how much the common man hates the cartels.
In no way would they. Half the country is involved in their dark economy. The Cartels and other criminal enterprises are their saviors.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Due to American drug policy.
Maybe a small part, but that is mostly idiotic libertarian boiler plate bullshite. Not defending our border with Mexico is the biggest reason, easily. Putti ng the government in control of illicit drugs is not the answer, slick. When you legalize them and let the government tax the shite out of them, guess what happens? You get the same black market you had to begin with.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
Invasions don't breed friends.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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If we invade Mexico
Everytime this topic comes up, you revert to that same idea. "Invasion". If we take action, it won't be an "invasion".
If you were living in a cartel controlled area, you would would welcome attacks on the cartels and their terroristic control over your home town/area.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:16 am to RolltidePA
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She’s not in the pocket of the cartels, she’s a figurehead that was selected by them. Hell, they killed off all of her competitors. Numerous candidates were killed off in the last election.
false.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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One of our closest allies and more important trade partners?
like clockwork, defending anything anti-American
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:16 am to troyt37
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but that is mostly idiotic libertarian boiler plate bullshite.
Youre so dumb.
I dont know how many times you people need to be told, but our own DRUG WAY created and props up the cartels.
Period. The drug war is more dangerous than the use of drugs.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:17 am to lake chuck fan
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Associates??? It's the fricking cartel!
I saw some dumbass NPCs yesterday claim "the cartel" took over apartment complexes, when those were Venezuelan gangs with no relation to Mexican cartels.
Hell, I think ITT someone even inched over there.
The point is, it's not always "the fricking cartel"
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Your never serious about discussing any topic.
You should read my posts ITT. All serious.
People make stupid comments or ask stupid questions, and I will label them as such. Those are the poeple who aren't serious about discussing this topic.
Just because I see the costs, perils, and ineffectiveness of muh fight talking points in no way implies I'm "taking the side of the cartels". That's pure idiocy.
That comment is too dumb and dishonest to give any serious or honest response to, so the only appropriate response is to "deflect" and call it what it is: dumb.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:18 am to troyt37
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When you legalize them and let the government tax the shite out of them, guess what happens? You get the same black market you had to begin with.
So don't tax them. Problem solved.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:20 am to lake chuck fan
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Everytime this topic comes up, you revert to that same idea. "Invasion". If we take action, it won't be an "invasion".
If we cross their border without their authorization, what do you call that if not an invasion?
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If you were living in a cartel controlled area, you would would welcome attacks on the cartels and their terroristic control over your home town/area.
No.
Just as we saw in the ME, we would be seen as invaders, not liberators. Many more of the non-cartel common men would be opposed, just as the non-terrorist common men of Iraq/Afghanistan were opposed to us being there.
The literal same talking points were said in 2003 and people like me told you then they were wrong. There will be no difference in Mexico.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:20 am to RohanGonzales
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like clockwork, defending anything anti-American
I'm pro American, which is why I loathe Trumps leftist economics.
I'm pro American, which is why I want the war on drugs to end.
I'm pro American, which means we should be selling shite across the globe with better trade policies, instead of enacting trade wars.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:21 am to RohanGonzales
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like clockwork, defending anything anti-American
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
You're not smart enough to even take seriously.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:24 am to oldhickory1812
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false.
I guess you're right, they we're all killed in the "pre-campaign" portion of the election season. So they weren't candidates yet. Fun fact, 60 Mexican politicians were assassinated in the 2024 election cycle. Very stable country there.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:25 am to lake chuck fan
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If you were living in a cartel controlled area, you would would welcome attacks on the cartels and their terroristic control over your home town/area.
When the Mob ran American cities, the poor people loved the mob. Mexican Cartels contribute over 10% of Mexico's GDP, and 55% are employed with the "informal economy."
Where do you think their allegiance is?
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:29 am to SlowFlowPro
I’m not surprised you wouldn’t understand a pivot:
I called you one of the dumbest posters on this board….:
Then, I pivoted to proving your last point as wrong. Demonstrating that a leftwing divorce lawyer doesn’t know shite about the subject matter.
Like I said before, you are no where near as smart as you think you are and everyone but you knows it.
I called you one of the dumbest posters on this board….:
Then, I pivoted to proving your last point as wrong. Demonstrating that a leftwing divorce lawyer doesn’t know shite about the subject matter.
Like I said before, you are no where near as smart as you think you are and everyone but you knows it.
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