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re: Military folks: What type of intel is this Russian spy ship gathering?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:19 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:19 pm to Covingtontiger77
They are listening for Boomers headed out of the Barn.
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:20 pm to Covingtontiger77
Probably to assist its sub fleet in shadowing our boats.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:22 pm to Covingtontiger77
Also, they might be testing a new device that detects and maps minute variations in the Earth's gravitational field.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:28 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Oddly, the nuclear boats are louder than the diesel boats and can't really run quiet, ever. That is because the cooling systems for the power plant go ker-chunk ker-chunk ker-chunk.
LOL no.
As a former submariner I can tell you you're completely wrong. We were able to track diesel boats fairly easily. Additionally, our boats (even the 688s) are virtually undetectable. We rarely were able to get a sniff of other US subs unless they had the artificial noise maker on (we'd turn it on to give the rest of the navy a slim chance of finding us during training ops so the surface navy would feel good about themselves).
Ohio class subs are able to turn off their reactor coolant pumps and initiate natural circulation while on patrol. They, quite frankly, can not be found.
Another thing the Navy likes to do with boomers heading out of Kings Bay is have a fast attack make as much noise as possible and "escort" the boomer out to sea. Country X hears the old 88 while the boomer slips away into the deep dark Atlantic.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:31 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Hacked them. Right off the boat.
Yahoo emails?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:39 pm to TheGasMan
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Another thing the Navy likes to do with boomers heading out of Kings Bay is have a fast attack make as much noise as possible and "escort" the boomer out to sea. Country X hears the old 88 while the boomer slips away into the deep dark Atlantic.
That's Classified, Mister !!
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:45 pm to Wolfhound45
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(Did not realize I spoke jive, did ya?)
That was not in the scouting report, no
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:45 pm to Champagne
Never covered in an OPSEC brief. It's fairly common knowledge and can be found on several websites. Much like the aforementioned natural circulation 
The Russians know we do it and it foils them every time! Sometimes their shitty engineering catches up to them resulting in egg on their face: LINK
That poor bastard got his towed array wrapped up in the prop.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:45 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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the nuclear boats... can't really run quiet, ever.
That's a load of horseshite.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:48 pm to terd ferguson
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terd ferguson
We meet again in another sub related thread.
You A-gang knuckledragging coner frick.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:49 pm to TheGasMan
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Additionally, our boats (even the 688s) are virtually undetectable.
^
That
When an SSBN goes under you're not going to "hear" it even under normal running conditions. And there are ways to make it even more quiet if needed.
Unless the sub has some sort of mechanical issue then it's virtually untrackable.
<-------- Former sub guy (SSBN's and SSN's)
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:49 pm to Covingtontiger77
Trying to determine if our submarine captains have perfected the "Crazy Ivan."
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:50 pm to TheGasMan
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We meet again in another sub related thread.
Got to set these "I read a Tom Clancey book" mfers straight.
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You A-gang knuckledragging coner frick.
Don't call me coner goddammit!
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:50 pm to Covingtontiger77
Reruns of Friends.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:52 pm to TheGasMan
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LOL no.
As a former submariner I can tell you you're completely wrong. We were able to track diesel boats fairly easily. Additionally, our boats (even the 688s) are virtually undetectable. We rarely were able to get a sniff of other US subs unless they had the artificial noise maker on (we'd turn it on to give the rest of the navy a slim chance of finding us during training ops so the surface navy would feel good about themselves).
I shoulda known it had all changed since I was in SubRon 16. Thanks for the info.
Mar Det AS-33
FBM Site 2 and USS Simon Lake, 1975.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:53 pm to terd ferguson
quote:
When an SSBN goes under you're not going to "hear" it even under normal running conditions. And there are ways to make it even more quiet if needed. Unless the sub has some sort of mechanical issue then it's virtually untrackable.
But I swear that I could hear what sounded like singing.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:55 pm to Champagne
quote:
When an SSBN goes under you're not going to "hear" it even under normal running conditions. And there are ways to make it even more quiet if needed. Unless the sub has some sort of mechanical issue then it's virtually untrackable.
But I swear that I could hear what sounded like singing.
Nah. What you heard was magma displacement.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 3:56 pm to WhiskeyPapa
I was on the Emory S. Land (AS-39) for a little while. The Lake had a Marine Detachment? WTF for?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:02 pm to Champagne
Now that's gotta be man made.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:05 pm to terd ferguson
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I was on the Emory S. Land (AS-39) for a little while. The Lake had a Marine Detachment? WTF for?
A holdover from better days. Mar Dets sorta morphed during the 20th century. On the big ships,before and during WWII, the Mar Det was responsible for firing part of the secondary battery and part of the AA suite. We fired the double 3 inch/50's on the Lake one time.
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Also responsible for security of the comm center. With the advent of nuclear weapons, that became a handy mission and great fro recruiting. But alas there wasn't much of a real mission.
We were like the only Mar Det that had much of a real world threat in 1975. Spain had some pretty violent separatists, the Basques.
All the carriers and the flag ship of the 6th Fleet USS Albany and the sub tenders had Marine Detachments; done away with in 1994.
The VIP was the SecDef I believe. I am the skinny lance coolie in the middle.
The Spanish helicopter carrier Dedalo. She had a very suggestive nickname you can probably guess. This is the former USS Cabot, with a distinguished record in World War Two. Simon Lake is visible way down the 1,000 foot pier. Planes from this ship attacked Japanese battleship Musashi in the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 4:14 pm
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