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Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:44 pm to texashorn
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How do you end lobbying?
vote for politicians that say they want to end lobbying.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:45 pm to HT713
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ok which candidate is running to take power from the state and give it back to the consumers?
How do you take power from the state when you force citizens to give the state more money and put it in charge of the very care that keeps you alive?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:45 pm to HT713
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ok which candidate is running to take power from the state and give it back to the consumers?
Not Bernie Sanders, that’s for sure.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:46 pm to HT713
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vote for politicians that say they want to end lobbying.
No, you vote for politicians that say they want to end the reason lobbying is a viable strategy.
Can I interest you in Rand Paul 2024?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:46 pm to beerJeep
y'all keep bringing up gun shite and I'll tell ya something
1: bernie is from vermont and has been supportive of the hunters and gun owners of that state for decades
2: I am a gun owner and occasional hunter, and most of the leftists I know own guns for one reason or another
don't go mixing up dem messaging with bernie's, they're not the same. he's not a democrat.
1: bernie is from vermont and has been supportive of the hunters and gun owners of that state for decades
2: I am a gun owner and occasional hunter, and most of the leftists I know own guns for one reason or another
don't go mixing up dem messaging with bernie's, they're not the same. he's not a democrat.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:47 pm to HT713
All lobbying? That would effectively kill the unions.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:47 pm to HT713
quote:Not Bernie.
ok which candidate is running to take power from the state and give it back to the consumers?
Hell, at least Trump has pushed for price transparency.
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As directed by President Trump's Executive Order on Improving Price and Quality Transparency in American Healthcare, today the Department of Health and Human Services is announcing that the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) is issuing two rules that take historic steps to increase price transparency to empower patients and increase competition among all hospitals, group health plans and health insurance issuers in the individual and group markets. One of the rules is the Calendar Year (CY) 2020 Outpatient Prospective Payment System (OPPS) & Ambulatory Surgical Center (ASC) Price Transparency Requirements for Hospitals to Make Standard Charges Public Final Rule. The second rule is the Transparency in Coverage Proposed Rule. Both the final and proposed rules require that pricing information be made publicly available.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:48 pm to HempHead
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Can I interest you in Rand Paul 2024?
If I ever believed a libertarian could get corruption and lobbying (aka corporate bribery) out of american politics, I'd have to give them a long hard look tbh
I know that 99% of this board probably doesn't actually know any bernie supporters IRL, so all they see is the loudmouths on twitter, but a lot of us are reasonable. I want what's best for america, and right now, I think it's bernie.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:49 pm to Scruffy
Bro, you give power to the people by consolidating power in government. You have more freedom when the government takes care of your food, housing, and healthcare.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:49 pm to upgrayedd
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How do you take power from the state when you force citizens to give the state more money and put it in charge of the very care that keeps you alive?
It is about the most perfect example of a Bernie supporter i've ever seen.
States why they support Bernie. Then every point of detail they make about why they support him, points to the exact reason why he should not be elected.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:50 pm to HT713
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don't go mixing up dem messaging with bernie's, they're not the same. he's not a democrat.
You’re right. He’s a socialist. The first goal of socialism is to disarm the citizens.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:51 pm to HT713
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don't go mixing up dem messaging with bernie's, they're not the same. he's not a democrat.
I’m not sure you know the position of where your party is currently on gun control and confiscation.
I would look to VA if you want to know where Democrats currently sit.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:51 pm to HT713
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I know that 99% of this board probably doesn't actually know any bernie supporters IRL, so all they see is the loudmouths on twitter, but a lot of us are reasonable.
You are the same as almost every Bernie supporter i've ever met. Reasonable is not a word I would use to describe any of you.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:51 pm to HT713
That you are open to both tells me that you just want something to change, regardless if it is prudent or not. I understand that, but I think you are making a severely misguided mistake in supporting Sanders.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:52 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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States why they support Bernie. Then every point of detail they make about why they support him, points to the exact reason why he should not be elected.
It's like when you ask socialists what happens if someone doesn't want to participate in socialism. Crickets.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:52 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Reasonable is not a word I would use to describe any of you.
it's funny you say that, because 99& of the MAGAtards on this board come across as people who can barely tie there shoes, yet whenever I come across these same types IRL, it's all love
gotta' be the type of person who wants to get along, I reckon. some of y'all don't want any peace or happiness, you just wanna argue
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:52 pm to HT713
I see. You want to end corporate lobbying. That jibes with your Citizens United comment (the corporate personhood aspect).
You want corporations to be completely subservient to the state. Hmm, I think there’s a term for that.
You want corporations to be completely subservient to the state. Hmm, I think there’s a term for that.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:53 pm to HempHead
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That you are open to both tells me that you just want something to change, regardless if it is prudent or not.
yes and I would say that the election of donald trump indicates that I'm not alone tbh
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:54 pm to HT713
alright boys, it's been fun giving you guys something to chew on for a bit, but I gotta actually get some work done today
beerjeep I'm a hold you to that charity bet we made
beerjeep I'm a hold you to that charity bet we made
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