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Posted on 2/7/26 at 6:02 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Not at all.
You’re projecting your antagonism onto me.
We can recap: Sally stated that we (I assume she was referring to women) could learn from men regarding situational awareness vs. self-awareness, which she claimed women tend to focus on.
You responded by saying, "You have depended on a man to clothe, feed and shelter you for most of your life. I don’t expect you to do anything but defend the sex you depend on for your survival."
In context, it is clear you were trying to put Sally in her place (thus the antagonism). I interpreted your statement as both chiding Sally for depending on a man for most of her life, as well as for not being willing to disagree with men because of said dependency.
Is my interpretation incorrect? If so, please clarify what you meant by it.
If my interpretation is correct, then I stand by my statement that you were being antagonistic. It seemed that you were attacking another woman because she defended what she stated was a man's emphasis on situational awareness, and you accused her of an alleged dependence on men that prevented her from doing anything but defend them.
quote:You made an assumption that because she was being taken care of by a man for most of her life, that she couldn't even voice an opinion of her own that may be contrary to most men. I believe that to be an unfair characterization, since you assumed she was essentially lying by voicing an opinion that was not her own, or that she's been somehow brainwashed because of her alleged dependency, as if what she said couldn't possibly be true. So again, you were being antagonistic toward her about an issue where you seemed to be expressing a feminist viewpoint.
I simply stated neutral facts. People generally don’t bite the hand that feeds them.
quote:I have no dog in this fight. My criticism was about your apparent worldview that is anti-biblical, if I'm correct in my assessment. I'm calling you to repent and turn to Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins if you have not, and if you have, that you seek to study the Scriptures and conform yourself more to Christ's commands, including abandoning modern feminist beliefs which run contrary to biblical teachings about men and women, including their roles in the family and society.
Unless you are upset that I stated a fact that you personally don’t find appealing? That’s a you problem.
quote:My only emotion is pity at this point. I pity you and want you to be saved and be conformed to the image of Christ.
This entire post is you projecting your own emotions onto me.
This post was edited on 2/7/26 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 2/7/26 at 6:17 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
FooManChoo
Thanks for that.
quote:
It seemed that you were attacking another woman because she defended what she stated was a man's emphasis on situational awareness, and you accused her of an alleged dependence on men that prevented her from doing anything but defend them.
That's how I interpreted it.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 6:23 pm to SallysHuman
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What is your purpose in introducing that into this conversation?
Wait… you have no problem spending your days judging other women on the internet but you have a problem with people speaking factually about you?
Rules for thee…
Posted on 2/7/26 at 6:25 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
In context, it is clear you were trying to put Sally in her place (thus the antagonism).
Putting her in her place? Whatever I’m not wasting any more time explaining to men why I’m speaking to a woman like this.
I’m glad she has other men to take care of her here.
This post was edited on 2/7/26 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 2/7/26 at 6:27 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Wait… you have no problem spending your days judging other women on the internet but you have a problem with people speaking factually about you? Rules for thee…
What?
Who did I judge?
As far as your "speaking factually" about me, you did some napkin math and thought you were filling in some blanks. That's supposition, not facts.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 6:35 pm to ZIGG
Posted on 2/7/26 at 6:48 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Yes. You've expressed liberal and feminist viewpoints for a long time on this board and have been the subject of many critical responses. Of course you are feeling defensive and want to defend yourself, even attack others that disagree with you. It's a typical defense mechanism in this sinful world. I understand why you want to do that, but urge you to consider that you are wrong and need to turn to Christ.
Putting her in her place?
quote:You don't need to. It's clear what you're doing, and it's clear what you're saying. You have an ungodly and unchristian view of this world and the relationships in this life, likely buying into the Critical Theory nonsense of all relationships being based on oppression. You need to consider that there are relationships based on love, such as God's love for us, and Christ's love for His Church, where He gave Himself for her. Christian husbands are called to love their wives as Christ loves the Church and gave Himself for her. That means that I need to die daily to my wife and protect her, love her, and give up my own wants and needs for her wellbeing. That doesn't devalue her, but shows how much value she has, that if I love myself, I love her even more.
Whatever I’m not wasting any more time explaining to men why I’m speaking to a woman like this.
Consider what Christ calls us to do, and turn from your false views.
quote:I am, too! God gave us communities to take care of each other. I'm sure she takes care of her husband and children (if she has some; I don't know her), as well as is a great comfort to her other friends and family. God gave us the family, the Church, and general society to live our lives in so that we can be supported and be a support to others.
I’m glad she has other men to take care of her here.
If you have been abused in your life and feel like all you can rely on is yourself, I'm very sorry for that. Sin destroys so much in this life, which is why I urge you once more to turn from your own self-dependence and depend upon Jesus Christ. You will let yourself down, but Jesus won't let you down. He will forgive you, give you comfort and peace, and remove that chip that seems to reside firmly on your shoulder. His burden is light; take it and be at peace
Posted on 2/7/26 at 6:54 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
You've expressed liberal and feminist viewpoints for a long time on this board and have been the subject of many critical responses
Here, you are explaining why you feel comfortable dismissing my posts. I explained why I dismissed hers.
Are you putting me in my place?
Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:01 pm to SallysHuman
40-16=24
It doesn’t matter. Teen pregnancies happen. Plenty of women (and men) never work or only work very briefly. Most people in prison never finished high school. That doesn’t define anyone. How we treat others, especially those we don’t stand to benefit from, is what defines us.
It doesn’t matter. Teen pregnancies happen. Plenty of women (and men) never work or only work very briefly. Most people in prison never finished high school. That doesn’t define anyone. How we treat others, especially those we don’t stand to benefit from, is what defines us.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:04 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
40-16=24
What exactly are you mathing there?
I'm not 40...
Since you're so very interested, I'm 43.
What else do you want to know?
Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:05 pm to 4cubbies
quote:I'm not dismissing your posts. I'm explaining why I believe you are being defensive and attempting to show some understanding.
Here, you are explaining why you feel comfortable dismissing my posts. I explained why I dismissed hers.
If I were being dismissive of you, I wouldn't spend this much time responding to you. I'm praying for you even right now
quote:That's not the posture I'm taking. I'm trying to explain to you--like I do to everyone else, so this isn't a man-dominating-woman-type of thing--why your view is destructive, and why you need to turn to Jesus Christ by faith and turn away from this toxic worldview that can add bitterness upon bitterness. It's like drinking poison and hoping someone else dies. It's not good for you.
Are you putting me in my place?
Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:10 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Putting her in her place? Whatever I’m not wasting any more time explaining to men why I’m speaking to a woman like this.
Translation: I'm painted in the corner now and this is my out.
quote:
I’m glad she has other men to take care of her here.
U jelly?
Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:17 pm to FooManChoo
My worldview is disapproval that this thread was started in bad faith to ridicule a woman who was brutally murdered on a mission trip 9 years ago.
Coincidentally, mostly men are mocking and casting judgement on this woman. Yet you feel that I’m the person with the hardened heart who rejects the teachings of Jesus.
I appreciate the prayers.
Coincidentally, mostly men are mocking and casting judgement on this woman. Yet you feel that I’m the person with the hardened heart who rejects the teachings of Jesus.
I appreciate the prayers.
This post was edited on 2/7/26 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 2/7/26 at 8:06 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Why are men...
Go make someone a sandwich, ugly fat abortionist skank.
This post was edited on 2/7/26 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 2/7/26 at 8:56 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Well, a worldview has more to do with the presuppositions and beliefs we assume to be true that shape how we see the world and interpret reality and our experiences therein, but I understand what you're getting at.
My worldview is disapproval that this thread was started in bad faith to ridicule a woman who was brutally murdered on a mission trip 9 years ago.
You are frustrated that a thread was created to ridicule someone who was killed. I don't see it that way, though I understand why you would think that. While I'm sure some were wrongfully giddy in hearing the news of the brutal murder of this woman (I haven't read through this entire thread), the first responses were mostly about the concept of bad decisions rather than outright mocking.
The impression I got was more that this was being seen as another use case of a bad ideology that fails to see evil for what it is, and this woman isn't a particular target of anyone here, but a representation of what is wrong with modern liberalism.
quote:I actually agree that we all should take these things more seriously, both in terms of the worldview and ideologies that lead to these results: the woman seems to have had a bad perspective or lack of awareness that led her to put herself in that danger; the UN didn't do take the threat seriously enough and should have given her and the other guy more protection; and those who killed her were ultimately at fault for their wickedness.
Coincidentally, mostly men are mocking and casting judgement on this woman. Yet you feel that I’m the person with the hardened heart who rejects the teachings of Jesus.
However, my focus wasn't on the other responses here for the moment. I engage others over issues like these somewhat regularly, and I attempt to share a Christian worldview to address these sorts of things in other contexts. My focus was more on your anti-male perspective, as I took it. The more conservative posters weren't being anti-women, but anti-liberal, and you seemed to come in with some anti-male responses, especially your second response, which seemed to address males generally, not just conservative males.
quote:Of course. I don't want anyone to perish in their sins, but for all to know the love of Christ and embrace Him as Lord and Savior
I appreciate the prayers.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 11:28 pm to ZIGG
So, in a nutshell, she gave head in the Congo to show how woke she was.
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