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4cubbies
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Only US citizens are humans. Gotcha.
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Glad this humanizes ICE for you
What would it take to humanize “illegals” for you?
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Cubs, virtually every interrelational argument you've made has to do with deployment of a power structure against an oppressed class.
In this thread?
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You claim such thoughts are entirely your own.
Why is it impossible for you to consider that my experience of actually being a woman has shown me that I am generally not valued by society? This does not mean that no individual values me as a person. Generally speaking, society values women for what it can extract from women (beauty, sex, children, domestic labor, caretaking, etc).
This is what I have deducted from being a woman in society. I don’t need a theorist to explain this to me.
New Orleans native named top leader at ICE, deepening Louisiana's ties to the agency
Posted by 4cubbies on 1/17/26 at 8:58 am
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An attorney from New Orleans was named deputy director of federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement, deepening Louisiana's ties to the agency President Donald Trump's administration is using to drive its deportation agenda.
The veteran ICE official, Charles Wall, previously worked as the agency's principal legal adviser, a role in which he oversaw attorneys representing the federal government across the nation in immigration removal proceedings.
Wall attended Jesuit High School, received an undergraduate degree from the University of New Orleans and studied law at Loyola University.
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Our sons play sports together. His family is very Catholic and very nice. I think he has 7 or 8 kids. Hoping for the best.
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Don't you though?
No.
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A questioning of your oppressor premise
What oppressor premise? You have the oppressor premise, not me.
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why the unappreciated party would not simply express the concern to his/her partner.
Why would you assume this concern wouldn’t be expressed?
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After relaying such concerns, any future "taken for granted" element would need be an error of commission, rather than one of passive omission.
That’s when the dissatisfaction really gets amplified.
re: 12th Grade Girls Are Far Less Likely Than Boys To Say They Want To Get Married Someday
Posted by 4cubbies on 1/16/26 at 9:00 pm to SallysHuman
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I believe marriage is a God given blessing and simply hope you come to view it that way too- because it IS a God given blessing.
Marriage is a sacrament and a vocation. Like all vocations, it entails duties and obligations ordered toward holiness. The purpose of the sacrament of Matrimony is the sanctification of the spouses and their mutual assistance in attaining salvation.
Everything, including suffering, is a God-given blessing.
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You don't what?
I don’t use Marx and Engels (or whatever critical theory you keep referencing) as fundament for my own political holdings.
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If you don't follow what I'm saying, it may be that you're so enveloped in the oppressor belief set that you don't even recognize the influence.
:lol: This is textbook gaslighting.
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Women are not valued by men.
• You are a woman, and therefore not valued.
• Your husband loves you.
• Your husband is a man.
Many husbands take their wives for granted. You may find that phrasing less offensive.
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Do your duty as a wife Cubbies
My husband has no complaints about my marital duty :pimp:
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Not exactly. A scholar using Marx and Engels as fundament for their own political holdings is sharing their own ideas.
I don’t though. I could understand you accusing me of leaning on Iris Marion Young’s framework about structural injustices in some discussions, but my ideas in this thread originated in my own brain.
re: 12th Grade Girls Are Far Less Likely Than Boys To Say They Want To Get Married Someday
Posted by 4cubbies on 1/16/26 at 5:14 pm to SallysHuman
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I sincerely hope 4cubbies grows into her marriage
That’s awful presumptuous. I’m discussing marriage as an institution, not my own marriage. There is an incessant need to make every discussion personal here. I don’t get it.
Didn’t you pile on when posters were mocking me for having a housekeeper? I’m not solely responsible for housework in my family. This discussion isn’t about my personal marriage or workload.
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marriage, I have never one time talked with other women about how much being married to a man is "too much work" for me. I'm not even sure what this means, to be honest. I
It means that working outside the home all day, then coming home and taking care of kids, a house and a grown man is too much work when subtracting the care of the grown man is also a possibility.
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And why is a woman wanting to remarry a red flag?
Why wouldn’t it be? Maybe I should clarify to say women who don’t want (additional) children wanting to remarry is a red flag. What would be the point of a marriage in middle age or later if children weren’t a factor? What purpose would that contract serve?
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These are powerful - and harsh - statements.
They are clinical observations that make people uncomfortable because they challenge prevailing cultural narratives.
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Your word, not mine. CT is not thoughtless
You're accusing me of regurgitating some CT pamphlet I received from someone at some point instead of sharing my own ideas.
THAT is thoughtless.
I don’t disagree with the descriptive history you’re laying out. I disagree that stability generated power in those examples.
The Roman Republic’s legitimacy depended on who counted as a citizen and who didn’t. Venice’s trust-based commerce relied on oligarchic control and exclusion. Britain’s financial credibility depended on imperial extraction and the ability to enforce contracts globally. The dollar’s dominance exists because of military, legal, and geopolitical backstops that everyone knows exist even if they’re not invoked daily.
Stability is conditional. It lasts only as long as power remains concentrated enough to enforce order. When power fragments or becomes contested, instability arises.
Societies with weak power structures struggle to maintain long-term stability.
This is more of an analytical debate than an ideological one.
The Roman Republic’s legitimacy depended on who counted as a citizen and who didn’t. Venice’s trust-based commerce relied on oligarchic control and exclusion. Britain’s financial credibility depended on imperial extraction and the ability to enforce contracts globally. The dollar’s dominance exists because of military, legal, and geopolitical backstops that everyone knows exist even if they’re not invoked daily.
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Force can seize power, but stability sustains it.
Stability is conditional. It lasts only as long as power remains concentrated enough to enforce order. When power fragments or becomes contested, instability arises.
Societies with weak power structures struggle to maintain long-term stability.
This is more of an analytical debate than an ideological one.
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Your derived conclusions don't arise from the ethers. They don't derive from critical thinking or reasoning, because they are CT based
You're just willing this to be true at this point. Dismissing my observations and conclusions as thoughtless CT-based whatever is the laziest counterargument and proves absolutely nothing, other than your utter lack of tolerance for differing perspectives.
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Good Lord, who told you that? Did you fully understand what was being conveyed?
Why do you assume I am incapable of drawing my own conclusions? It's pretty insulting.
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Society has demonstrated it, again, and again, and again. Where in the world do you suppose "power" comes from? An unstable society?
Power comes from force and weapons. Can you point to an example of power being derived from stability? We mostly see power exerted during instability in this country.
Stability might legitimize power, but stability doesn't create it. If stability were the source of power, instability would weaken authority. Yet history shows the opposite: instability often concentrates power in fewer hands under the justification of "restoring order."
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I know that's what you've selectively sourced
You don't know that. You’re assuming that in bad faith because it’s easier than engaging the substance of the argument.
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But it is verifiably false.
Have you demonstrated that society is structured around stability rather than power? Simply asserting it doesn’t make it so.
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But again, the CT oppressor thesis is dependent on it.
I'm genuinely curious how an American can argue that American society is primarily organized around stability and not power. Our institutions are explicitly built around power: who votes, who owns, who polices, who litigates, who sets wages, who writes laws. Stability is an outcome for some, not the organizing principle for all.
quote:Marriage is not a unilateral decision. Women don’t independently decide if, when, or whom they marry. It requires mutual consent and continued participation.
Foregoing marriage in favor of a less formal relationship is like foregoing a contract in any partnership. Contractless arrangements are inherently less stable or assured.
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cubs - If outputs for a traditional, faith-based marriage - and there is no conflicting data, they are more stable, have higher forms of happiness, economic outcomes for the family, etc. - what's the response there?
I'm not arguing that marriage is horrible and oppressive and should be eradicated in all forms.
I'm literally in one of the marriages you're describing. I do wonder if or what overlapping factors could be credited with some of this stability and economic outcomes, like educational attainment and socioeconomic status.
I also wonder how it's possible for me to have such a starkly different perception of modern marriage than the people who have been posting in this thread. I went to my daughter's school earlier today to shop with her at the book fair. While I was in the library waiting for her class to get there, I ran into a mom I knew who was volunteering. She asked me how things have been since adding a third kid. I told her we were keeping our heads above water but the baby kind of put a strain on our marriage for a while. She immediately went into details about how she was ready to walk away from her own marriage because her husband wasn't pulling his weight in 2020 and only stuck around because she didn't want to pay him child support. Fortunately, she said that things are much better for them now. It's wild to me that I can't even walk out of the house without tripping over a woman who is or has been dissatisfied with imbalances in her marriage and the (presumed) husband contributors here are in utter disbelief that I'm even suggesting such a thing.
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I mean you are saying women abandoning marriage is a good thing
I’m not saying it’s a good thing. I’m saying it’s an understandable thing.
When most households now require two incomes, but the expectations around childcare, emotional labor, household management, and kin-keeping remain disproportionately female, marriage stops functioning as a net stabilizer for many women. It becomes a net loss.
That doesn’t make opting out admirable or deplorable. It makes it rational. People respond to incentives. When the institution no longer offers proportional returns for the labor it demands, participation declines.
I can acknowledge that outcome without celebrating it.
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Social structure evolves around stability.
I audibly laughed upon reading this. Social structures evolve around power.
If you are married (pun intended ) to the idea that social structures evolve around stability - women foregoing marriage is a result of the perceived lack of stability marriage provides them.
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E.g., Social structure for most of history held childbirth as a positive hope, and out-of-wedlock pregnancy as shameful. Those structures have changed. Now the premises of marriage and childbirth are no longer tightly interlocked. Out-of-wedlock pregnancy is deemed more acceptable. As a result, almost unbelievably, young females with no expectations for marriage say they'd like to have kids, and they say so at a higher percentage than do those who expect to get married. Feminists would hail that attitude as laudatory.
The decoupling of marriage and childbirth is not the result of feminists celebrating instability. It is a rational adaptation to economic reality. Marriage has become less reliable as an institution for women in terms of financial security, labor sharing, and long-term stability. At the same time, women still want children. Interpreting that as ideological confusion rather than pragmatic reasoning is needless over-intellectualization.
People have sex outside of marriage. Sometimes that sex results in pregnancies. Men and women are often choosing not to marry in response to unplanned pregnancies. This has occurred alongside declining economic returns to marriage, reduced social enforcement of male obligation, and the erosion of marriage as a mechanism for risk pooling. This is a cultural shift, not a theoretical one pioneered by feminists.
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Cubbies is a tough egg to crack in terms of male humanity.
There are logical explanations for this that have nothing to do with academic theories and everything to do with the way our society is structured.
Even so, I spend every day fixing systems I didn’t break that coincidentally harm men most profoundly. I see the dignity in all humans (even men!). I just want this reciprocated.
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