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re: My doctor today had no idea what Novavax is.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:53 pm to anc
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:53 pm to anc
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One of the things I have realized since March 2020 is that most doctors and nurses would be lost without the ability to Google.
How about engineers, programmers, etc.
A lot of professions rely on search engines. You'd be shocked.
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Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:55 pm to KCMIZSEC
I think most of these doctors have spent 2 years being conditioned into thinking that the ONLY acceptable treatment for COVID-19 is One of the three American EUA vaccines. Further, they've been inundated with negativity from the medical community surrounding any alternative treatments.
Im not surprised at all.
Im not surprised at all.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:55 pm to LSUBogeyMan
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My wife’s niece will be a doctor. She is in med school and makes straight As. I also wonder if she is mentally retarded sometimes.
Being a doctor requires being really good at school, so you're going to get a lot of good students that might not be the greatest at the other parts. But you'll be absolutely sure they're the best students.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:57 pm to KCMIZSEC
quote:Not yet approved so she hasn't seen a drug rep on it.
My doctor today had no idea what Novavax is.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:59 pm to KCMIZSEC
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Am I wrong to think this is something a doctor should at least know about and be able to opine on?
I think a lot of people don't get how narrow a lot of people's "expertise" is in many professional fields. It's why it's so comical to me when people say, "but he's a doctor, he must know more than you etc etc". The same applies to fields of science, engineering, pretty much everything.
For example, if you needed to assess risk based upon stats in relation to a disease, there is no sane world where your first call would be to a medical professional.
It would be like asking your local car mechanic for the statistical likelihood of brakes failing on your particular model of car. No. You'd ask someone who, oddly enough, probably has no fricking idea how to fix brakes.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:03 pm to KCMIZSEC
Ask your doc something that takes some effort to learn about, like if they know what the proposed mechanism of action is for how hydroxychloroquine affects viruses, Not if they agree with it, just if they know it. If they don’t know it then they are asleep at the wheel, only reading practice updates and headlines, and not digging deep into the science. (it doesn’t directly affect viruses, but it theoretically allows zinc get into your cells easily and zinc will disrupt viral replication machinery).
On a topic as pertinent as COVID they should know the proposed mechanism of actions for all available tools so they can educate their patients on if they are legitimate treatments or not. Same goes for ivermectin, rimdesivir, and the new Pfizer and Moderna antiviral medications, This doesn’t apply to just covid. I would ask your doc to explain mechanism of actions for all drugs and diseases processes they are diagnosing you with if you are suspicious of their knowledge base. If they can’t give you a detailed explanation then they’re not doctors, they’re just cookbook reading pill pushers. Somewhere along the way medical schools stopped making physician scientists and started making drones. There are few scientists left.
On a topic as pertinent as COVID they should know the proposed mechanism of actions for all available tools so they can educate their patients on if they are legitimate treatments or not. Same goes for ivermectin, rimdesivir, and the new Pfizer and Moderna antiviral medications, This doesn’t apply to just covid. I would ask your doc to explain mechanism of actions for all drugs and diseases processes they are diagnosing you with if you are suspicious of their knowledge base. If they can’t give you a detailed explanation then they’re not doctors, they’re just cookbook reading pill pushers. Somewhere along the way medical schools stopped making physician scientists and started making drones. There are few scientists left.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:04 pm to AussieRock
Completely agree. Not to mention most fields, like gastroenterology have absolutely no useful studies available with regard to COVID. (Just as an example why a seemingly smart person would not be involved with the COVID newswire).
A general practitioner treats a lot of different stuff but at a certain level she'll refer them to a specialist, as the system is designed to do.
Also, Doctors aren't going to involve themselves with anything that isn't FDA approved. When novavax gets approval it'll come across their desk.
A general practitioner treats a lot of different stuff but at a certain level she'll refer them to a specialist, as the system is designed to do.
Also, Doctors aren't going to involve themselves with anything that isn't FDA approved. When novavax gets approval it'll come across their desk.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:08 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:Exactly.
Also, Doctors aren't going to involve themselves with anything that isn't FDA approved. When novavax gets approval it'll come across their desk.
And, contrary to what many might think, your general practitioner has no special education that qualifies them more to assess the information out there on the subject of COVID than any other well educated reasonably bright person.
Generally speaking, one of my first indicators I'm dealing with an idiot on this whole thing is when they say, "well are you a doctor?!?!?!" It tells me I'm dealing with someone too stupid to have any hope of having THEIR OWN opinion on the subject. All they can do is repeat what the "SELECTED" "expert" on CNN said.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:08 pm to KCMIZSEC
Fired!
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:10 pm to LakeCharles
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You probably need to have at least one prostate exam before you make that call.
She does have smaller fingers than the last guy, which seems favorable.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:12 pm to KCMIZSEC
Had my 2 boys yearly checkup today, was shocked that nurse and doctor didn’t ask me about The jab for them
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:20 pm to KCMIZSEC
My doctor is the opposite, he'll overload me with scientific jargon with a quickness. Think he spends all his free time getting off on scientific papers or something.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:27 pm to KCMIZSEC
quote:I don’t believe Novavax is available in the US. Therefore it’s not surprising a US doctor would know about it.
My doctor today had no idea what Novavax is
I had this very conversation with my DIL who’s in med school…..she had no idea about it…..googled it and said she would have a taken it if was available.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:28 pm to KCMIZSEC
I guess whoever makes Novavax hasn't been feeding their office?
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:31 pm to KCMIZSEC
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My doctor today had no idea what Novavax is.
Logically, Novavax is the only viable choice if you want something that acts like actual vaccines did pre-covid, before the XiDXi changed the definitions of "vaccine" and "vaccinated" literally 3 days before Biden's unconstitutional "vaccine" mandates.
I worry though. Is Novavax the real Trojan Horse?
Sorry, but I've beaten the two "worst" covid variants without even going to my doctor. I'll take my chances, as they're clearly already in my favor.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:36 pm to AussieRock
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I think a lot of people don't get how narrow a lot of people's "expertise" is in many professional fields. It's why it's so comical to me when people say, "but he's a doctor, he must know more than you etc etc".
Medicine has become so sub-specialized because there is just too much information to be an expert in all things. Research and advancement in most specialties are moving along at warp speed. Orthopedic surgery for example has around 7 sub-specialties.
And that whole google thing. Doctors from yesteryear had the whole medical library in the offices that they referenced. Today folks use google.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:52 pm to Gifman
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Doctors aren’t what they used to be.
THIS! Growing my GP was an allergist who retired to that kind of work after being a surgeon for almost 30 years. Unlike alot of his colleagues he never stopped learning about new things and updating his methods.
He was the one that diagnosed my heart problem at a very young age and then recommended my current cardiologist to me when I was 11. Still to this day, I've not found another doctor like my original GP.
He was a super smart guy, had a great wit and unlike a lot of doctors, he dealt with you in plain terms and never tried to sound like the smartest guy in the room.
I remember my last visit to him in 2007 before he retired. I had gone in for bronchitis and instead of prescribing me my meds, he went into his office, came out with a GSK bag full of samples. It was the exact medicine that I needed. A rep had been by the day before and left him a bunch of samples. I had a months worth of medicine for $0.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:09 pm to KCMIZSEC
She hasn't been paid to push it, yet. So, why should she care about it?
My country doctor great grandfather is rolling in his grave. The man took chickens, eggs and wild game for payment when his patients didn't have any money.
My country doctor great grandfather is rolling in his grave. The man took chickens, eggs and wild game for payment when his patients didn't have any money.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:15 pm to KCMIZSEC
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She literally googled it while I was sitting in front of her. Am I wrong to think this is something a doctor should at least know about and be able to opine on?
Yes. She should know. Most Drs are only reading what medical journals give them. I have no idea who writes those journals, but I imagine they are left leaning.
Our medical industry is slowly deteriorating.
Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:17 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
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My wife's gastroenterologist was recommending that she get a covid vaccine yesterday. I had told her to wait for the Novavax before she gets one. She mentioned that to him and he told her he had never heard of it.
Doctors don't know everything.
They should at least know about Novavax; however, Novavax is not one of the major pharma companies, such as Moderna, Phizer or JNJ.
The CDC and FDA may not give them EUA status in the US. Other countries are giving them EUA, but the US has not at this time.
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