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re: Net neutrality is good for capitalism
Posted on 1/15/14 at 5:47 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 1/15/14 at 5:47 pm to Jim Rockford
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Choice? Free market? It is to laugh.
you can't criticize the free market when we haven't had a free market
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 5:56 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
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you can't criticize the free market when we haven't had a free market
I'm saying there isn't a free market and won't be a free market, net neutrality or not. The people saying this ruling makes for a freer market are barking up the wrong tree. All it does is disadvantage the consumer without doing anything about collusion, cronyism, or lack of competition.
Posted on 1/15/14 at 6:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I think of the internet as part of the public infrastructure (developed by the public via DARPA/California) but is largely maintained by private entities.
The internet is part of our everyday culture and life. It's a breeding grounds for innovation and startups. Restricting access restricts innovation. Period.
Either provide access to the internet.. or don't.
The internet is part of our everyday culture and life. It's a breeding grounds for innovation and startups. Restricting access restricts innovation. Period.
Either provide access to the internet.. or don't.
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:48 pm to Draconian Sanctions
This is the dumbest post I've ever seen here.
The best one was a couple of days ago.
You retards on the left are so insecure.
Again, this is the dumbest shite I've ever read here and I've been here for years.
As you were.
The best one was a couple of days ago.
You retards on the left are so insecure.
Again, this is the dumbest shite I've ever read here and I've been here for years.
As you were.
Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:48 pm to Scoop
quote:
This is the dumbest post I've ever seen here.
The best one was a couple of days ago.
You retards on the left are so insecure.
Again, this is the dumbest shite I've ever read here and I've been here for years.
As you were.
Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:54 pm to cwill
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Why shouldn't ISP's be able to auction off or limit access to their network? What if one ISP choked off or limited access or restricted some competing sites and another one did not, was net neutral? Which one would have more customers?
In a perfect world, this would happen, but the infrastructure costs make it nearly impossible. Google is HUGE and they need heavy subsidies to establish their new network. If they can't do it, who can?
I'm sure that in the long term, we will be okay without net neutrality. But in the foreseeable future, we're going to be paying more for less. Show me otherwise.
Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:58 pm to Draconian Sanctions
There are people in the far reaches of our country who would nort receive any information if not for PBS, 
Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:11 pm to StrangeBrew
The neutrality of the internet is what has allowed it to be become the amazing thing that it is.
Any who thinks it should not stay that way is an idiot.
Any who thinks it should not stay that way is an idiot.
Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:50 pm to SG_Geaux
This debate is more complex and nuanced than I initially thought. Hence, I recant my previous statements that I whole-heartedly reject the idea of net neutrality and the motives of the FCC. I am going to continue to form an opinion going forward.
Here's what brought me back to "undecided."
WSK: Will Net Neutrality Make the Internet More Like Cable?
basically the article is saying how the internet was supposed to eventually be the end of the headache of having to pay cable companies for channels you don't want in order to get channels or internet speed you do want.
Here's what brought me back to "undecided."
quote:
This sets up a business model similar to that of cable, in which entertainment companies and cable providers enter into intense negotiations to determine the various tiers of your cable line-up. In other words, we're witnessing the cableization of the Internet.
Imagine if, when you went to sign up for Comcast or AT&T's broadband service, you were charged a low price for an Internet plan that let you access Amazon's video-rental service but a much higher price for a plan that allowed Netflix. Or say your wireless phone company offered you this deal: You can get a very cheap data plan that is partly sponsored by Google, Amazon and Netflix. You'll still have to pay for those firms' videos, but downloads from their services won't count against your monthly data cap. There's a catch, though. If you want to get videos from any other provider— Apple's iTunes, for example—the videos may trigger your downloading limits, and you'll have to pay an extra fee to the phone company.
Would you take that deal? It depends, of course, on how much you like videos from Google, Amazon and Netflix and whether you could do without iTunes. Proponents say such deals would improve your service and lower your prices—if AT&T were getting paid by content companies for your line, it could theoretically charge you less, and it would have an extra revenue stream to expand its network.
WSK: Will Net Neutrality Make the Internet More Like Cable?
basically the article is saying how the internet was supposed to eventually be the end of the headache of having to pay cable companies for channels you don't want in order to get channels or internet speed you do want.
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