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re: Not Exactly Politics…Spam Calls
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:58 am to southernboisb
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:58 am to southernboisb
If I'm not busy I try to waste as much of their time as possible. Costs them money and keeps them away from someone who might fall for it.
I tried not answering but they never give up. I set one scammer to go straight to voice mail and they called over 30 times in six weeks before they either gave up or got shut down.
I tried not answering but they never give up. I set one scammer to go straight to voice mail and they called over 30 times in six weeks before they either gave up or got shut down.
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:02 am to southernboisb
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If you answer, it acknowledges the # is a working #.
They know it's a working number anyway because they don't get an error message.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:04 am to southernboisb
Should have signed up for the national ‘do not call’ list. Don’t you remember when the government solved this problem?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:05 am to Bestbank Tiger
I've gotten to the place such that if I have the time I answer and say the most vile shite that comes to mind. I hope their entire family dies in a fire. I hope their daughter is gang raped by goats. And that's my rated G material.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:38 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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I've gotten to the place such that if I have the time I answer and say the most vile shite that comes to mind. I hope their entire family dies in a fire. I hope their daughter is gang raped by goats. And that's my rated G material.
I've been insulting one company but they keep calling for some reason. You would think they would quit calling a number they know isn't a mark.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:11 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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That only helps with legitimate calls. Easily 90% of all Spam calls today are scams coming out of India and honestly at this point I'm just starting to hate Indian people in general because of it. Yeah that's irrational but Jesus Christ it's ridiculous and their country does nothing about it
It doesn't even help with legit calls in my experience
That experience being my first job out of college was working for a legit company that sold tax free and corporate bonds mostly by telephone. Starting out in that business you are essentially a glorified telemarketer just cold calling people you have reason to believe might be interested in bonds (bank board members, etc.). Anyways we had the do not call registry program on our computers and in theory we were suppose to run every number we called through it before calling them but on my first day I was told I didn't have to mess with that and nobody does it
So basically there seemingly isn't enforcement and without enforcement a law isn't worth the paper it's written on
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:27 pm to Wishnitwas1998
I sometimes answer just to F with them. The caller ID on my cell phone says "spam alert" so I'm already tipped off. When they call, if they say "hi, my name is Robert" in a Pakistan or Indian accent, I immediately tell them to F off and hang up.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:31 pm to ThunderSnow
Reminds me of when I was a kid - we used to think it was funny to answer the phone with "Joe's Funeral Home. You stab 'em, we slab 'em."
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:58 pm to GumboPot
I did it for all of my phones: home and family cells, business lines, and company provided employee phones for years. It might have reduced it some but still had calls, so I quit doing it years ago.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:06 pm to southernboisb
I never answer any calls.
You can jailbreak your iphone (which you should do anyways) and configure it to re-route all calls (from callers not in my address book) back to the origin. Eventually they realize they are spamming themselves and they take my number off their lists without any intervention from me.
You can jailbreak your iphone (which you should do anyways) and configure it to re-route all calls (from callers not in my address book) back to the origin. Eventually they realize they are spamming themselves and they take my number off their lists without any intervention from me.
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:45 pm to CouldCareLess
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CouldCareLess
I've told a few of them that I regularly visit India and that I knew how to find them and planned to kill them and their entire family
You get a long pause on that one. LOL
And no. I don't feel even slightly bad about it
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:52 pm to southernboisb
This is almost a 100% Indian (red dot) problem. When legit customer support call centers left Indian, they left a whole generation that has no skills other than service center call. They all turned to scamming. VOIP can be blocked at the IP but internet service providers don't care. Block all calls originating in India until this shite stops. I'm tired of calling them benchod.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:56 pm to JYD
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The Do Not Call List doesn't seem to really work nowadays.
I'm convinced it does nothing more than validate your number is an active number for scammers. If the government practices the same cyber security on the DoNotCall website as elsewhere, its definitely compromised.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:02 pm to theballguy
How do you reroute their calls back?
Tried to do that with snail mail (“return to sender”), but the PO wanted me to PAY POSTAGE on the items they delivered.
Tried to do that with snail mail (“return to sender”), but the PO wanted me to PAY POSTAGE on the items they delivered.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:10 pm to southernboisb
I asked before on this board but the question Bears repeating. Is it really unfair to wonder what the frick is wrong with Indian culture? Seriously. If there were thousands of people in our major cities occupying entire floors or more of business Towers whose only profession was stealing from vulnerable people in other countries there would be massive public outcry.
But not there. There these people are fricking pillars of the community. They might as well be soccer moms and dads or they probably are a soccer moms and dads. And there's no way it's a secret what they do because it's too massive.
But not there. There these people are fricking pillars of the community. They might as well be soccer moms and dads or they probably are a soccer moms and dads. And there's no way it's a secret what they do because it's too massive.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:42 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
I wouldn’t blame Indians as I’ve heard several foreign accents (& yes, ALSO American).
Posted on 5/23/25 at 4:47 pm to southernboisb
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I wouldn’t blame Indians as I’ve heard several foreign accents (& yes, ALSO American)
The scam calls are overwhelmingly from India. And even if there are some from other places the sheer number from India indicates a Workforce in the thousands dedicated to it. I receive anywhere from 30 to 40 calls a day and I know multiple people around the country who get the same. For that to be going on we might be talking tens of thousands of people in India doing it
Posted on 5/23/25 at 5:49 pm to southernboisb
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I’ld be surprised if any WERE an actual person & not those robo-caller devices. Also, if you verbally respond in any way, they can use that. That’s why we never answer.
Congress should pass a law requiring physical individuals to make calls on behalf of solicitors and debt collectors. Instead of robocalls saying press one if I am speaking with XYZ.
Debt collectors and solicitors must use numbers registered to their actual business name and use caller id to identify which number is calling and who is calling.
Any violation of this could result in government fines of over 10,000 dollars per call and civil relief of 10,000 dollars per call.
Calls that do follow the rules of identification can be blocked at the carrier level without cost. These rules will only apply to commercial calls. Individuals can still make calls and have their personal numbers unlisted as long as the calls are non commercial or do not involve solicitation. Individuals violating this could face the same penalties as above.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 6:28 pm to GumboPot
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I found that this helps.
LINK
I found the opposite. Grift calls to me at least tripled once I put my number on that list. Honest telemarketers will stay away but when the crooks get the list they now have a whole lot of what they know to be valid phone numbers.
There are a number of YouTube videos of scam operations in India getting busted, but it's like whack-a-mole. The business is so profitable they just keep cropping up.
Not all the scammers are calling from India. Some originate in Nigeria and a couple of months two ago I had one that originated, IIRC, from Jamaica.
I've never had the one where a supposed relative of mine is in legal trouble and can only be bailed out with gift cards.
Years ago I read the FCC was going to put a stop to the calling schemes, but that never happened.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 7:37 am to Tarps99
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Individuals can still make calls and have their personal numbers unlisted as long as the calls are non commercial or do not involve solicitation. Individuals violating this could face the same penalties as above.
How long before spammers do this & you’re tricked into thinking it’s a friend calling you?
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