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re: Nothing wrong with JD Vance. Everything wrong with being too scared to stand up.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:28 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:28 pm to Adam Banks
We will lose unless we play smarter
Vance has been a negative anyway you slice it
Trump should switch to vivek or tulsi to ensure a win
You have to attract the middle in a GE
And play smarter knowing the media bias
We have lost momentum with Vance in a weeks time.
Vance has been a negative anyway you slice it
Trump should switch to vivek or tulsi to ensure a win
You have to attract the middle in a GE
And play smarter knowing the media bias
We have lost momentum with Vance in a weeks time.
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Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, that is non-responsive to my post completely.
I'll post it again so you can re-read (and hopefully think about it this time)
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We have yet to see him have to make a real decision.
Do you really want me to cut an paste Trump's foreign policy achievements from his first term?
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:29 pm to GumboPot
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Do you really want me to cut an paste Trump's foreign policy achievements from his first term?
They're irrelevant and non-responsive to the point unless he was faced with a decision on direct military intervention.
That came up once. He was lucky to not have to be in that position often during his 4 years. But when he had to make a decision, he chose unnecessary intervention.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:30 pm to crazyatthecamp
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Trump should switch to vivek or tulsi to ensure a win
The media would definitely stop talking bad about Trump, his VP, and conservatives. This would ensure their fair treatment..
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:31 pm to UtahGetMeTwo
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Only ones bitching about JD is a few bitter never Trumpers cause they have nothing left to bitch about.
One of the ones is Dave Portnoy who has endorsed Trump and is a major influencer like it or not.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:31 pm to crazyatthecamp
Attributing momentum loss to Vance instead of discarding the anchor that was Biden is just ridiculous 
If our people would stop whining about Vance being too hard on the cat ladies and stop fretting about polls, the race will settle in a couple of weeks and they'll probably feel fine about it.
As it stands we're just feeding into the talking point the Dems need - that Kamala somehow changes the race because she's a hero to suburban women. Dumb as it is, us repeating the messaging on Kamala and the messaging on Vance being bad for women could help will the trend into being. So stop.
If our people would stop whining about Vance being too hard on the cat ladies and stop fretting about polls, the race will settle in a couple of weeks and they'll probably feel fine about it.
As it stands we're just feeding into the talking point the Dems need - that Kamala somehow changes the race because she's a hero to suburban women. Dumb as it is, us repeating the messaging on Kamala and the messaging on Vance being bad for women could help will the trend into being. So stop.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:32 pm to Adam Banks
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One of the ones is Dave Portnoy who has endorsed Trump and is a major influencer like it or not.
So is he going to switch to Kamala?
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And US consumers benefit
Until they lose their jobs.
Again, the key word is balance.
We have to make real tangible stuff in order to support the service based economy that you apparently adore so much.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:33 pm to Adam Banks
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One of the ones is Dave Portnoy who has endorsed Trump and is a major influencer like it or not.
Is he going to pull his endorsement because of Vance? Doubt it.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They're irrelevant and non-responsive to the point unless he was faced with a decision on direct military intervention.
Does ending the Afghanistan war where Biden fricked up the withdrawal count?
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:35 pm to Dawgfanman
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So is he going to switch to Kamala?
Maybe. Maybe not.
It certainly might stop him from using his platform to pumping his followers up to go to the polls.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:35 pm to GumboPot
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Until they lose their jobs.
Advancing economy > stagnant economy
People have to shift with the changing economy or they'll be driving horse and buggy carriages in the era of the automobile.
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We have to make real tangible stuff in order to support the service based economy that you apparently adore so much.
We are the #2 manufacturer in the world, and the per capita value of our manufacturing output is very high. No country has that combination.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:37 pm to GumboPot
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Does ending the Afghanistan war where Biden fricked up the withdrawal count?
What decision on direct military intervention did he have to make?
I think our pullout would have been better under Trump, but, again, that's a completely different subject area itself.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:38 pm to crazyatthecamp
You’re going to be called a cuck and told that anyone offended by his comments wasn’t going to vote for Trump in the first place.
I agree that the VP should somewhat offset Trump’s brash nature. Youngkin would have been a better pick.
I agree that the VP should somewhat offset Trump’s brash nature. Youngkin would have been a better pick.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:41 pm to Jjdoc
Should have picked BDR
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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We are the #2 manufacturer in the world
We were number 1.
IMO we should protect our steel, aluminum, pharmaceutical, and medical industries. We probably want to tariff Taiwanese microchips as a hedge against a war between Taiwan and China (to make American made microchips viable).
You can free trade Mardi Gras beads all you want. I don't give a shite about plastic dildos and Mardi Gras cups. But there are industries that are of vital national security and they should be protected using tariffs and other measures.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What decision on direct military intervention did he have to make?
To withdraw.
He campaigned on this issue and did it.
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:44 pm to Jjdoc
Most people are too scared to stand up. They don't want to lose their careers, which would happen if they stood up.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:46 pm to GumboPot
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We probably want to tariff Taiwanese microchips as a hedge against a war between Taiwan and China (to make American made microchips viable).
Makes more sense than subsidizing their production here to the tune of billions of dollars.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 2:46 pm to GumboPot
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We were number 1.
China has over 3x the population.
India is going to surpass us one day in total manufacturing, too.
Means nothing other than they have much larger populations than we do.
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But there are industries that are of vital national security and they should be protected using tariffs and other measures.
This is changing the argument
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