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Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 2:13 pm to
I saw a show on tru something on the tic tac looking UFOs men gave a description of aliens they saw. AND MD's found microchips not of this world implanted in some people that were abducted.

The alien being were frightening looking.
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 2:13 pm to
I really don't like that notion.

Carried to an extreme (a ridiculous one?) and humanity is like the couple in the diner in that Twilight Zone episode - paralyzed in fear and totally dependent on what the magic box had to tell them.

Out of curiousity have you ever reade "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind?"

It's a book by Julian Jaynes if you haven't read it. It was somewhat of a sensation (in some quarters) when it was published. And even though it's been about 4 decades since then, it hasn't gone away. Actually some pretty heavy hitters still mention it, and it comes up in discussion here and there.
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 2:15 pm to
did I post this in the correct thread? Didn't you make a more recent thread on the tic tac Navy sightings?
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 3:28 pm to
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“Once you become aware that there is a phenomenon, it becomes aware of you.”



I'm there. Spooky.
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 3:45 pm to
love it. Gimme moar thine
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 5:20 pm to
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Once you become aware that there is a phenomenon, it becomes aware of you.


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Posted on 7/1/19 at 6:31 pm to
Fwiw this is my favorite thread on TD
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 6:48 pm to
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saw a show on tru something on the tic tac looking UFOs men gave a description of aliens they saw. AND MD's found microchips not of this world implanted in some people that were abducted.

The alien being were frightening looking


Shirley you can't be serious...?
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:31 pm to
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Invisible College


https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/597ebn/meet-silicon-valleys-ufo-hunters?utm_source=reddit.com

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Meet Silicon Valley's UFO Hunters
A small group of venture capitalists and technologists believe that humans can capture and reverse-engineer UFOs—and that trying to do so might be a good investment.
By MJ Banias | Jun 28 2019, 11:42am


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There would be nothing more disruptive than the sudden discovery of aliens. Perhaps that's why a small contingent of Silicon Valley is so interested in UFOs—and wants to know who's piloting them.

With US Navy pilots coming forward to talk about their encounters with anomalous aerial vehicles, UFO hunters are starting to feel vindicated. The cross-section of technologists who are also UFO enthusiasts believe that they not only exist, but that we can make significant scientific breakthroughs by studying them.


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Rizwan Virk, runs PlayLabs@MIT. He's also a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, angel investor, author of The Simulation Hypothesis, and finds UFOs compelling as a technologist and scientist.

“I am interested in the phenomenon because I believe mainstream science may have only discovered 5 percent of the truth about reality, and the other 95 percent is still ‘out there,’” he said in an interview. Virk said that studying UFOs, whether they are real or not, have challenged his ideas of what he believes is possible: "This phenomenon seems to be about advanced technology that doesn't always fit into our current model of ‘what is technology’ and what isn't,” he said. “Many technologists use their intuition to find new technology ideas and decide which paths to pursue," he added. "There's overlap between the idea of trusting your intuition and what happens in UFO research.”


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it is public knowledge that a wealthy real estate mogul and technopreneur from Utah bought the infamous Skinwalker Ranch from aerospace billionaire Robert Bigelow. For many in the tech world who are also into UFOs, their ufology is an engrossing and obsessive side hustle.


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Deep Prasad, the CEO of ReactiveQ, a multimillion dollar quantum computing tech start-up based out of Toronto, shares Lampkin’s sentiments.

“As technologists we seek to master science and engineering in such a way that all of humanity benefits from it," he told Motherboard. “In front of our eyes are technologies underlying these UFOs that are far beyond our understanding and capabilities of recreating ... if we pay close attention and reverse these technologies to bring to the masses, we will see a world with interstellar travel at our fingertips."
Posted by AgentUtah
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:09 pm to
ReactiveQ seems to be involved in machine learning. I would encourage everyone to read up on machine learning, q learning, and google’s deep mind. The topics all converge with AI, which is the top priority for Silicon Valley.
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:17 pm to
Thine, do you think that we are seeing US military vehicles like the TR3b?
If so, do you think they will release this technology to the public?
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Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:09 pm to
Does anyone want to speculate on what the President says about the TicTacs or AAVs when Tucker interviewed him .
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/3/19 at 8:07 pm to
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They began to believe there was an underwater UFO base off of the coast.


Prior post talked about the Italian city of Caronia (northern part of Sicily)

The upcoming episode of “Unidentified” is supposed to discuss this area on Friday

Look what happened earlier today (on the island of Stromboli which is close by, off the coast)



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/volcano-erupts-italian-island-stromboli-killing-one-person-n1026516

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Volcano erupts on Italian island of Stromboli, killing one person A hiker was killed by falling stones in the blast, which also sparked fires and sent tourists fleeing into the Mediterranean Sea for safety.


https://shadetreephysics.com/canneto2.htm

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The Fires of Canneto di Caronia


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We do not have to limit our considerations to Mt. Etna as a possible source of recently deposited volcanic ash at Canneto di Caronia. The photo below shows ash erupting from Mt. Stromboli which is the northeasternmost of the Aeolian islands, located some 55 nautical miles northeast of Canneto di Caronia. Ash Erupting from Crater 1, Stromboli
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Posted on 7/4/19 at 10:57 am to
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Deep Prasad, the CEO of ReactiveQ, a multimillion dollar quantum computing tech start-up based out of Toronto, shares Lampkin’s sentiments.

“As technologists we seek to master science and engineering in such a way that all of humanity benefits from it," he told Motherboard. “In front of our eyes are technologies underlying these UFOs that are far beyond our understanding and capabilities of recreating ... if we pay close attention and reverse these technologies to bring to the masses, we will see a world with interstellar travel at our fingertips."


Deep published a very interesting opinion piece (interesting name and company name...)
I feel (and have felt this way for some time) the same way as the author (one day I clarify)

https://medium.com/@deep_1645/what-kind-of-life-do-you-want-to-live-4978cea71144

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What kind of life do you want to live?
Deep Prasad Deep Prasad Follow
Jun 29 · 14 min read


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Growing up no one ever tells you everything there is to know about the world. Why would they? It would be an impossible task to take on for both the teacher and the student. Yet as we grow up we are constantly given information that is at best 2nd-hand, and it is subtly implied as indisputable fact. Sometimes if you argue enough with the teacher, they might make it explicit how indisputable the fact is by shutting you up through various methods. Even if you successfully prove them wrong you will have at best enlightened a small crowd of minds around you. Yet Humanity’s collective pool of (incorrect) knowledge would remain largely unchanged regarding the fact being debated at hand. The purpose of this article is not to convince anyone of anything. If it is meant to be, it will play its small part in igniting the public subconsciousness to go out and ask the hard questions that need to be asked about the current world around them. If we want to have any dignity left as a society that prides itself with the status of an “intelligent, thinking species” then we should be jumping onto the pursuit for truth whenever new, potentially game-changing information comes our way. In my definition, game-changing information means information that could lead to the next definitive steps in Human evolution. Examples from history include the Golden Ages of Greece, Iran and the Renaissance in Europe over 400 years ago.


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Over years of speaking to some of the world’s experts and leading companies on these topics as well as running a “deep tech” company, I’d like to think I’ve built an intuition for walking the fine line between the art of the possible and the art of the impossible. I’m constantly checking my numbers, claims, facts and their sources before making my company’s next move. My sci-fi ambition drives the direction but the *Real World* and its limitations firmly ground our goals in Reality. We have to. We have no other choice. It would be insanity for us to make our Engineering decisions based on speculating what technology might be built or discovered someday. Imagine for a second I worked at Tesla as an engineer and refused to work on the current model, a model constrained by Earth’s resources and the imagination of Tesla’s brightest talent. Imagine that I insisted instead on waiting for the magic metal Vibranium to be discovered and given to me and I refused to even acknowledge that the current model was our best one. That is no strategy and such an engineer would soon find themselves working elsewhere, probably at a sci-fi publication rather than in a hard Engineering environment. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but such a mentality is inexcusable for someone who actually does need to build something useful for the world at some point. Following? Good. Now you’re where I am, sort of. I see a world full of Engineers waiting for Vibranium to be dropped into their hands. Oddly enough, I see that there really does exist a very advanced technology that behaves like Vibranium but whoever owns it isn’t willing to share or reveal themselves. To make matters worse, the owner of said technology not only has Vibranium, they also seem to have some sort of impossible fuel source unknown to mankind and abilities to move through Reality in ways that were again, previously thought impossible. I am not describing science fiction here, this is real life. We are really living this scenario whether you like it or not. There is really someone out there who has attained the epitome of Science and Engineering in ways that break some of our most precious, well preserved laws of Physics. They have somehow overcome Engineering challenges that are hilariously out of scope for any Engineer, Technology Company, Government Organization or Private Organization in the public domain. I don’t care if you’re Google, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, SpaceX or Apple. You cannot and will not be able to replicate the observed technologies that the US Navy is constantly encountering around the world, as reported in virtually every mainstream media outlet these past few weeks. The very same flying objects invading their airspace is able to run circles around their best jets and pilots and leave without a chance of getting caught or identifying themselves. At a glance, a rational human might wonder, “Well who has the gonads to pull that off in US Military Air Space repeatedly without worrying about starting a war if they’re not American, or risk killing their own people if they are American? Most importantly, who can pull this level of technology off and stay hidden for all of Human History?” To me, the technology we are seeing is potentially hundreds of years ahead of us. I do not say this lightly. In fact, thanks to a fantastic journalist named Tyler Rogoway I came to realize how hilariously far behind even the greatest superpowers like the US is in catching up to the level of technology the Navy is running into. I say hilarious but it’s really not, in fact what I came to learn through a series of investigations done on the subject of what these objects are capable of and how no one knows what they are, has disturbed me to no end.


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The patent application was initially rejected by the patent examiner under the grounds that one of the requirements was generating a magnetic field on the order of 10? Teslas, which as Tyler Rogoway correctly states is roughly the same strength as Magnetars. Such a magnetic field that this patent design calls for is hundreds of millions of times stronger than any man-made magnet, and quadrillions of times more powerful than the field surrounding Earth. Another fun fact about magnetars, they are 3 times heavier than the Sun while being only 10km in radius on average, which means a teaspoon of the stuff would weigh 100 million tons. Good luck recreating that in a tiny 50 foot long vehicle in our atmosphere without falling and tearing a hole through Planet Earth!


We have all heard the term Magnetar before (end of the post(s) will clarify)

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Posted on 7/4/19 at 10:57 am to
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Speaking of superconductors, here’s another curious patent that the same Scientist filed for on the behalf of the US Secretary of the Navy. This time it’s on patenting a design for a room temperature superconductor which is considered a “Holy Grail” of materials science and engineering. It would be analogous to me patenting an AI algorithm capable of replacing every human on the planet, except my design was fundamentally flawed from the get go and the magic algorithm was nowhere to be found. Experts believe human level AI is still decades away, if it’s even achievable which is yet to be proven. So it would be strange if my patent got accepted on such grounds, right? I wouldn’t and indeed don’t stand a chance in predicting what the final Human level AI algorithms in the 2050s onwards will look like. If I did, I would have built a private army of sentient droids serving all my purposes already! Notably the inventor, Salvatore Pais, incorrectly conflates virtual phonons with physical phonons generated by shaking the wire in order to create cooper pairs in the room temperature superconducting patent application. The latter does not and will not ever create superconducting effects. This shows a fundamental flaw in the party’s understanding of Superconducting physics, it is akin to me confusing an apple with an orange just because they are both round! So why then was this patent taken seriously if it couldn’t possibly be right, right from the get go? Is this part of a suite of radical, impossible technologies they foresee coming for some reason? Is it to trick the enemy? Or is it something else, something a bit more sinister and a combination of all of the above and more? I believe it is the last option and my stance on this issue will be clear by the end of this article.


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That’s what it takes to create a Gravity wave of any detectable frequency. To claim that we can generate them at will, to a point that we can bend spacetime to our liking and traverse at 30 times the speed of sound or more is ludicrous. We are never producing more energy than what is contained in the collision of 2 blackholes. Apparently, the US Navy believes someone already is doing that or will be able to in the near future.


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Every single patent while interesting sounding in nature, would unlock an entirely new world for us if it existed. If we could actually produce a fraction of the energy implied in these design patents, if we could produce a fraction of the capabilities of manipulating spacetime the way this craft supposedly can when it’s working, we would never have to work another day in our lives. We would literally have the rest of the Galaxy in our finger tips. There are asteroids out there made of diamond, gold and titanium (maybe not all at once, but it doesn’t matter when you have Star Wars level craft) that we could mine. We already know there are thousands of exoplanets within reach, they would instantly get unlocked if we had the technology purported to power this new era of craft the Navy is trying to build. Seriously, I mean it when I say we wouldn’t need to work again. What would be the point exactly when all of mankind would suddenly have access to an infinite amount of resources rather than being stuck to what’s offered on Earth? We could all become explorers. Hell, we could all have our own planets. There’s enough of them out there.

Here’s the crazy part: These Star Wars level craft do exist. It is not speculation unless you are paranoid and condescending enough to not trust any of the Scientists, trained Military Professionals and Government involved that are coming out and confirming their existence to the world these days. The Navy have been running into these craft more and more over the past few years, and in some areas sometimes the incursions are almost daily. If these patents are among the Navy’s best guesses as to how these invading machines work and if they are at least somewhat close, then we are talking about energy scales that are ginormous and far beyond the abilities of our civilization. For those familiar with the Kardashev Scale, a civilization that can harness as much energy as the Sun or more is considered a Type II civilization, while Earth is considered a Type ~0.73 civilization. We are millenia away from building something that could capture or generate as much power as the Sun does. The alarming thing to note here is that even if we or when we could, that would still not be able to create the amount of power involved in generating the weakest of Gravitational waves. So, who is capable of potentially creating the magnetic field of a magnetar in our atmosphere all while flying around with impunity? I agree it has to do with manipulating Gravity and potentially gravity waves, but that would require more energy than generating the magnetar-level magnetic field I wager! However there is probably a chance that these hypersonic UFOs are using an undiscovered set of emergent properties of matter that occur with specific isotopic ratios and electron configurations, leading to the decoupling of spacetime in a way that allows for them to tolerate 12,000gs (an F-18 would start to break apart at 13.5gs) without compromising their energy requirements. But then such materials would require Engineering that is downright impossible for anyone on the planet to do now, 50 or even 100 years from now.


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Either way, I am at a loss of Scientific and Engineering knowledge to speculate on how these things work. I believe speculation is a waste of time. I would rather handle one of these flying objects myself, where studying the materials that they’re composed of alone could advance our knowledge of Material Science by a factor of potentially hundreds of years.


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Some relaxing art because what I’m about to say is not relaxing at all.
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Posted on 7/4/19 at 10:57 am to
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The reason why the patent ended up getting accepted was because the Naval Aviation Enterprise CTO Dr. James Sheehy personally vouched that the Star Wars Craft design was grounded in Reality. His exact quote includes the following: “China is already investing significantly in this area” and “[I] would prefer we [the U.S.] hold the patent as opposed to paying forever more to use this revolutionary technology” as he asserted “this will become a reality.” Given that I, a random 23-Year-Old on the internet could find glaring Scientific and Engineering flaws in their design, how is it possible that the patent examiner who had already rejected the Star Wars patent once, change his mind just because the CTO basically asked him to? They mention preliminary lab results to justify why the patent examiner should change their mind but those results are on energy scales tens of billions times lower than what is needed to accomplish what we’re talking about here and I am being nice with those numbers. Finally, here is what I see: There are physics defying craft flying around in our air space all over the world, and China and the US and other countries are in a race to figure out how they work.

The craft potentially represent technology from a Type II civilization based on the US Navy’s very own estimates as reflected in the Star Wars Patent debacle. It is my belief that no country or group of humans on this planet can currently circumvent the power consumption or material science issues involved in these designs, even if they figure out the Scientific principles that may allow for such Star Wars craft to exist. Again, they are real, the question people should be asking is how they work and who built them and how.

I personally don’t care if you want to bury your head in the sand and believe that these are the result of black projects hidden away in some bunker in the United States or a different country. If that’s true, then great, we can all quit our jobs starting tomorrow. All we’d need is the right journalists, politicians and influencers of the world to get to the bottom of which group has secretly gotten on the level of a Type II civilization while the rest of us haven’t even hit Type I yet. Then they would have to ask that group to politely share their technology so that the rest of Humanity benefits. Do you believe there exists such a group? If so, they hold the keys to your future and a life you could be living that you can’t even dream of at the moment. I mean this in the most rational, least fanatic but inspiring way possible. We could be camping on an exoplanet right now, without a need to worry about a job or a care in the Universe. If you’ve managed to read everything in this article, congratulations. You are now in a position to answer my question: What kind of life do you want to live? One in which we live on a dying world with depleting resources everyone will fight for, or one where Human immortality and traversing other Galaxies become engrained into the Human identity?



She eyes me like a Pisces when I am weak
I've been locked inside your heart-shaped box for weeks
I've been drawn into your magnetar pit trap
I wish I could eat your cancer when you turn black

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Hey, wait
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice...

[Chorus]
Hey, wait
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice...

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Meat-eating orchids forgive no one just yet
Cut myself on angel hair and baby's breath
Broken hymen of your Highness, I'm left back
Throw down your umbilical noose so I can climb right back

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Forever in debt to your priceless advice...

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Forever in debt to your priceless advice...
Your advice...

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She eyes me like a Pisces when I am weak
I've been locked inside your heart-shaped box for weeks
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/5/19 at 7:04 am to
Trump is going to be interviewed tonight by Tucker Carlson about this (UFOs)
Tweet vid of Fox preview embedded in write up

https://silvarecord.com/2019/07/04/hoffman-claims-elizondo-spoke-about-contents-of-congressional-briefings/

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Hoffman Claims Elizondo Spoke about Contents of Congressional Briefings
JULY 4, 2019


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I think (leadership) are owed the facts behind these videos, but all the videos, not just the three. I think people look at the three and say, “oh, there’s only three videos.” That’s simply not the case and those who need to see the rest of the videos will.”

When George Knapp asked Elizondo to characterize the other videos, Mr. Elizondo stated they were:

“Better, very compelling and better.” Now on July 3rd, 2019 Rich Hoffman (of the SCU) commented via Facebook regarding what Luis Elizondo said to him. According to Rich Hoffman, recounting what Elizondo allegedly told him, politicians and officials who were included in these briefings have seen the classified UFO videos. I share this quote with Mr. Hoffman’s permission: “Lue Elizondo told me straight out that these clips are not the whole video. That, in fact there was incredible evidence showing performance beyond our capabilities in the remaining portions that are indeed classified. The general public is getting just a taste, but not the full meal. The Senators got the full meal in the recent briefings.


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I can only speculate the briefing Trump himself confirmed took place included these videos or he at least has access to them since others allegedly do. Despite speculations over the past 70 years, we can now make an educated guess and point to circumstantial evidence that a sitting president of the United States has seen or at least had access to classified UFO videos.

Tucker Carlson interviewed president trump in a conversation that will air tomorrow, July 5th, 2019. (This article will be updated then.) Will Trump make comments similar to the ones he made to George Stephanopoulos or will he elaborate further? Did these briefings and videos influence the president’s recent comments? Interviews and comments aside how will these videos influence the president, the senate and policy moving forward?
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 6:57 pm to













Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:25 pm to
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Tom Delonge's UFO Timeline Part 1 Published on Jun 20, 2019



Part 2 below
We speculate on much of this info here already
There are some new points. The info presented fits with my understanding/readings into Delonge /TTSA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Yn2h2phywNE

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Tom Delonge's UFO Timeline Part 2: The Core Story

Published on Jul 16, 2019

This video goes over the core story of what UFOs are and the history of the US Government's reaction to them, according to Tom Delonge and his advisers.
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:24 pm to
Drop down to “News” section

https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/

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TO THE STARS ACADEMY OF ARTS & SCIENCE MAKES GROUNDBREAKING METAMATERIALS ACQUISITION
Thursday July 25th, 2019


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San Diego, CA (July 25, 2019) - To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA) has acquired multiple pieces of metamaterials and an archive of initial analysis and research for their controversial ADAM Research Project. ADAM, an acronym for Acquisition and Data Analysis of Materials, is an academic research program focused on the exploitation of exotic materials for technological innovation.

The ownership of these assets, which were previously retained and studied by investigative journalist Linda Moulton Howe and are reported to have come from an advanced aerospace vehicle of unknown origin, allows TTSA to conduct rigorous scientific evaluations to determine its function and possible applications.

“The structure and composition of these materials are not from any known existing military or commercial application,” says Steve Justice, current COO of To The Stars Academy and former head of Advanced Systems at Lockheed Martin's "Skunk Works." “They've been collected from sources with varying levels of chain-of-custody documentation, so we are focusing on verifiable facts and working to develop independent scientific proof of the materials' properties and attributes. In some cases, the manufacturing technology required to fabricate the material is only now becoming available, but the material has been in documented possession since the mid-1990's. We currently have multiple material samples being analyzed by contracted laboratories and have plans to extend the scope of this study.” TTSA will also seek to engage the potential partners who have expressed interest in helping accelerate ADAM research and development.

“If the claims associated with these assets can be validated and substantiated, then we can initiate work to transition them from being a technology to commercial and military capabilities,” adds Justice. “As noted in our October 2017 TTSA kickoff webcast, technologies that would allow us to engineer the spacetime metric would bring capabilities that would fundamentally alter civilization, with revolutionary changes to transportation, communication, and computation.”
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