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re: Official Pillow Guy Symposium: only flat-earthers remain excited
Posted on 8/12/21 at 3:51 pm to oklahogjr
Posted on 8/12/21 at 3:51 pm to oklahogjr
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so long story short you can't prove it was china changing votes during the election by hacking machines.....
That’s not what you asked and I was responding in a limit timeframe. But I have no ability to verify if China did the cyber stealing or not. I specifically answered your questions to the extent of time I had. The overarching thing is that it WAS stolen. That’s a problem everyone should be concerned about. I know your side won by the methodology used sorting it out corruptly but some things need to be fixed in life.
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 3:53 pm to ChineseBandit58
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Go ahead - apply your own approach to all political issues -
the floor is yours.
I mean if i could have a 3 day conference reading the steele dossier that's easy. especially if i could just make up what was in the dossier as i go and not show it to you.
however we both know that wouldn't be true.....which is the problem in here, this is all based on a false premise. they haven't proven anything. in a lot of cases they've said they need to go do more homework.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 3:55 pm to AlwysATgr
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Not watching but if it's shown that a given state's election mechanisms COULD have been compromised, then the burden of proof now falls on that State's SoS to demonstrate the fidelity of their election.
It's one thing to stitch together a cogent narrative of fraud in a legal arena. Maybe that hasn't been done.
But the flip side now has to be done, i.e., PROVE in the face of compromised mechanisms that your election has fidelity. THAT hasn't been done either.
I'd make the states certify it before allowing the President to assume office.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 8/12/21 at 3:58 pm to AlwysATgr
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Not watching but if it's shown that a given state's election mechanisms COULD have been compromised, then the burden of proof now falls on that State's SoS to demonstrate the fidelity of their election.
false if i show you could have committed a murder. it is in fact still up to me to prove you did commit it.
you can't prove to me something didn't happen. you can only prove it happened. that's the standard required for this type of claim to be believable or matter anywhere.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 3:59 pm to Coleridge
leftist and oligarchy lovers took down frankspeech.com stream again. 
I am watching now via rsbn's rumble stream.
I am watching now via rsbn's rumble stream.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:03 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Just reported on stage. When feed came back up, it was in Chinese.
WTH?
WTH?
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:06 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Lindel's FrankSpeech is back up.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:06 pm to oklahogjr
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you can only prove it happened. that's the standard required for this type of claim to be believable or matter anywhere.
Ball's in the states' court. Prove (with a capital P) that your 2020 election has fidelity. Prove it.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:10 pm to AlwysATgr
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Ball's in the states' court. Prove (with a capital P) that your 2020 election has fidelity. Prove it.
and what would they need to do to prove that?
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:10 pm to Coleridge
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I'd make the states certify it before allowing the President to assume office.
nah-uh, we need double and triple certification! Trump lost, this can’t be real. Quintuple certification! This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:15 pm to AlwysATgr
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Ball's in the states' court. Prove (with a capital P) that your 2020 election has fidelity. Prove it.
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The presumption of innocence is a legal principle that every person accused of any crime is considered innocent until proven guilty. Under the presumption of innocence, the legal burden of proof is thus on the prosecution, which must present compelling evidence to the trier of fact (a judge or a jury). If the prosecution does not prove the charges true, then the person is acquitted of the charges. The prosecution must in most cases prove that the accused is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If reasonable doubt remains, the accused must be acquitted. The opposite system is a presumption of guilt.
In many countries and under many legal systems, including common law and civil law systems (not to be confused with the other kind of civil law, which deals with non-criminal legal issues), the presumption of innocence is a legal right of the accused in a criminal trial. It is also an international human right under the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 11.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:17 pm to YankeeBama
I watched some of it Tue and Wed but it's down now ????
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:23 pm to oklahogjr
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and what would they need to do to prove that?
Forensic audit anyone?
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:23 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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Lindel's FrankSpeech is back up.
It was probably just a fire drill.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:24 pm to hubertcumberdale
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hubertcumberdale
You showed up at the wrong ball park.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:24 pm to oklahogjr
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and what would they need to do to prove that?
I’d like a publicly open audit of a couple random counties at the very least. Show us that the process is straightforward and has the ability to be checked.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:25 pm to AlwysATgr
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Forensic audit anyone?
so when az audit results are announced you'll agree with the findings?
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:26 pm to oklahogjr
Depends on the findings.
Bear in mind I have the county's truculence and reticence card to play in case things go astray.
Bear in mind I have the county's truculence and reticence card to play in case things go astray.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:30 pm to oklahogjr
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false if i show you could have committed a murder. it is in fact still up to me to prove you did commit it.
The problem is the claims of "most secure election ever", "air gapped", "not connected to the internet", etc. begin ringing hollow when things are found which contest those claims.
Once something like that comes along the burden then falls upon the state to prove these things do not disprove their initial claims.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:31 pm to Coleridge
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Depends on the findings.
Bear in mind I have the county's truculence and reticence card to play in case things go astray.
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79/
Final verdict of this "cyber expert":
Number of "packet captures" or "cyber pcaps" seen = 0
Amount of "Absolute Proof" seen = 0
Amount of any evidence seen = 0
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80/ Some comments on the last tweet claim that while there were no packet-captures, that they saw other pieces of evidence presented on stage. If I missed something, please correct me and point to the specific thing that I missed.
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@ErrataRob
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 4:33 pm
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