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re: Oh boy, 2016 FBI Crime Statistics Have Been Released

Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:22 am to
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:22 am to
I've been saying for months now that the kneelers are running on a false narrative and have presented 0 (zero) credible statistical evidence that law enforcement is biased, especially during the arrest process. Less AA (per capita) die during arrests than whites.

Their end game always was (and remains) your wallet. Stick-up on a grand scale. Greatest con game in the history of mankind.

ETA: This should serve as indisputable evidence regarding the source of crime, but Americans are so fricking stupid when it comes to statistics and comparative analysis. It's just mind-boggling. How can anyone even think of justifying and defending the current state of affairs in the "black community" regarding treatment by law enforcement?

And one day, we'll talk about how that term (black community) has become a free pass for the perps and suggests "we" should just turn our heads and accept the fact that these people live by a separate set of laws and have some unspoken right to take or kill whatever/whoever they want.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 7:39 am
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:37 am to
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Well, that's certainly convenient.


I would say for this board and the black community that it is decidedly inconvenient.

An inconvenient truth, if you will.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:14 pm to
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I would say for this board and the black community that it is decidedly inconvenient.


You can say anything you like. It's extremely convenient in this context.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:14 pm to
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War on poverty. Check the chart

Probably some cultural issues (decline in religion, feminism, etc) as well. But to say it is due to incarceration rates is patently false and demonstrated in the graphs


So because the war on poverty program happens to coincide with the rise in single parent black households means that the program is responsible? Lol. You cant be that stupid, surely. Maybe you know more to support your pount but simply showing two graphs is just idiotic.

Wiki

A simple review of the policies and existence since shows absolutely zero correlation. It was a nice attempt for you to try to blame it on Democratic programs but you're going to have to try again
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:15 pm to
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You can say anything you like. It's extremely convenient in this context.


Probably not convenient how they got here or ended up in the situation we were talking about it
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:16 pm to
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Probably not convenient how they got here or ended up in the situation we were talking about it


Cool story.

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Maybe because we all live in a society together


...is convenient.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:19 pm to
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A simple review of the policies and existence since shows absolutely zero correlation.


Where does it explain there is no correlation? Thomas Sowell says the correlation is there. So did liberal democrat Pat Moynihan.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:20 pm to
What caused almost 80% of black kids to be born out of wedlock then?

This needs solved. I'm genuinely interested as during my college days we looked at this issue. It's been a long time though.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:24 pm to
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Maybe because we all live in a society together


...is convenient.


Well im a big fan of Jazz, so...
Posted by RTRLSD
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:26 pm to
You have to be completely ignorant to think that poverty explains that kind of insane disparity in violence. Lower IQ = more violence. Just the facts.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:26 pm to
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A simple review of the policies and existence since shows absolutely zero correlation. It was a nice attempt for you to try to blame it on Democratic programs but you're going to have to try again



So....why the massive increase in single parent households?

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156689 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:27 pm to
Blues > jazz
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Where does it explain there is no correlation? Thomas Sowell says the correlation is there. So did liberal democrat Pat Moynihan.


It doesn't but then again it doesnt show one either. What I see is a program that brought poverty levels down and many of the programs that spun off of it still in existence today where no other politicians have shut them down.

The onus is on you to show me how being less poor made black fathers less prevalent in the household. That is harder data to try to overcome then simply showing a graph where black father started participating Less in the households while the war on poverty started
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:28 pm to
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You have to be completely ignorant to think that poverty explains that kind of insane disparity in violence. Lower IQ = more violence. Just the facts.


And really poor education from the beginning of childhood lowers IQ scores. And being in really poor areas creates lower education.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:29 pm to
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Blues > jazz


And blues came from Jazz and then rock and roll came from the Blues
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45129 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:30 pm to
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The onus is on you to show me how being less poor made black fathers less prevalent in the household.


Oh for the love of fricking god.

You can't be this stupid.

ETA: Here, let me reword your statement and lets see if you can get it:

quote:

The onus is on you to show me how the government stepping in to provide housing, food, and additional spending money made black fathers no longer necessary in the household.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:30 pm to
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What caused almost 80% of black kids to be born out of wedlock then?

This needs solved. I'm genuinely interested as during my college days we looked at this issue. It's been a long time though.


I really want to know as well. For some reason I think it's the introduction of lots of drugs in the streets. Specifically lots of cocaine and crack. But that's just a hunch I want to do a little research
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117155 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:32 pm to
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It doesn't but then again it doesnt show one either.


So, your 'zero correlation' statement is a false assertion with zero evidence to support it?

The evidence of correlation is simple. AFDC payments required not being married. Therefore, to get money the father had to be out of the picture. The replacement of AFDC has the same requirement now. It is a clear disincentive to marry. You have to be extremely ignorant or in a state of denial to see this.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:32 pm to
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So....why the massive increase in single parent households?


I really don't know. But I'm looking into drugs as possible answer for that. I'm going to go actually read a lot of statistics for introduction and rise and crack and cocaine and subsequent incarceration rates for said drugs
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Oh for the love of fricking god.

You can't be this stupid.


Show me how it's stupid then
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