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re: Open border lovin' Dems on this board............
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:21 am to Leto II
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:21 am to Leto II
Here is your legit conversation.
1. Enjoy your kid’s education watered down to the burden of public schools having to take on the task of educating non English speaking students.
2. Enjoy your healthcare and insurance premiums with hospitals taking in non-insured persons who use ER for sniffles.
3. Enjoy your criminal justice system with people who have already ignored one law (legal immigration) to be here and who knows what other laws they will choose to follow.
1. Enjoy your kid’s education watered down to the burden of public schools having to take on the task of educating non English speaking students.
2. Enjoy your healthcare and insurance premiums with hospitals taking in non-insured persons who use ER for sniffles.
3. Enjoy your criminal justice system with people who have already ignored one law (legal immigration) to be here and who knows what other laws they will choose to follow.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:22 am to LuckyTiger
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If you have millions of illegals a year released into a country
Then the country MUST have closed borders.
If the country had open borders they would not be illegal.
I don't know how to explain this in any simpler terms. The fact is the country does not have open borders.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:22 am to LuckyTiger
Ignore that groomer twat.
He knows the border is a shite show and it’s all on the dems who he religiously supports.
frick him.
He knows the border is a shite show and it’s all on the dems who he religiously supports.
frick him.
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:24 am to LSUconvert
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The idea that you think our borders are open but acknowledge them as illegal immigrants is hilarious.
If the border is not open…. Why do the democrats take such offense to calls to close the border? I mean.. if it’s already closed.
There is two options. Open. Closed. No halfway open. No halfway closed. Open. Closed.
So just enlighten us. Why do leftists scream when it’s suggested we close it?
Even an ally of yours, NYU agrees:
Seems they acknowledge an open vs. closed border
So if it’s not closed… it’s what?
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:26 am to LSUconvert
How would you define the state of our borders and illegal immigration?
I see you want to talk in terms of semantics with "open and closed".
So let's use other parlance.
We will use the term "secure". The definition of Secure in this context is substantially more illegal immigrants coming across the border than the numbers that came across from 2016-2020.
Or, if you'd like, "not secure" would be substantially more numbers than our current immigration system can handle and account for?
Is the Southern Border currently Secure, given these parameters?
I see you want to talk in terms of semantics with "open and closed".
So let's use other parlance.
We will use the term "secure". The definition of Secure in this context is substantially more illegal immigrants coming across the border than the numbers that came across from 2016-2020.
Or, if you'd like, "not secure" would be substantially more numbers than our current immigration system can handle and account for?
Is the Southern Border currently Secure, given these parameters?
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:29 am to Fun Bunch
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I see you want to talk in terms of semantics with "open and closed".
Why would you think this when the title of the thread is
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Open border lovin'
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:30 am to LSUconvert
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millions of illegals a year released into a country
quote:
Then the country MUST have closed borders.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:30 am to LSUconvert
You obviously know what he means by "open border" but are attempting to play a semantics game to avoid answering any questions or giving any details, because its clearly a no win and illogical situation purely manufactured for votes.
Just like you completely avoided the rest of my post.
Just like you completely avoided the rest of my post.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:31 am to LuckyTiger
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millions of illegals a year released into a country
quote:
Then the country MUST have closed borders.
Now you're getting it!
Conversely, do you know how many illegal immigrants we would have if the borders were open? If you'd like a hint, it's less than the current number.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:38 am to LSUconvert
Releasing millions of illegals into the country is not a secure border. We have reached an impasse on the terminology.
I am interested in your reasons for supporting the current policy, however. Why do you support the current situation?
I am interested in your reasons for supporting the current policy, however. Why do you support the current situation?
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:43 am to LSUconvert
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Now you're getting it! Conversely, do you know how many illegal immigrants we would have if the borders were open? If you'd like a hint, it's less than the current number.
Ok. Show us one reputable source that agrees on your claim the US border is, by definition, a closed border.
Annnnnd go!!
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:44 am to Bandit1980
There are Dems on this board?
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:49 am to CleverUserName
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Ok. Show us one reputable source that agrees on your claim the US border is, by definition, a closed border.
I'm not teaching a 9th grade class here. If you can't understand what an open border policy is, then you're beyond help.
Educate yourself, or stop talking about stuff you're so clearly ignorant about.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:50 am to LSUconvert
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I'm not teaching a 9th grade class here. If you can't understand what an open border policy is, then you're beyond help. Educate yourself, or stop talking about stuff you're so clearly ignorant about.
Show me how ignorant I am.
Again. Ahem. Show us one reputable source that agrees the US border is, by definition, a closed border.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:50 am to LuckyTiger
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Why do you support the current situation?
What the hell are you talking about?
quote:
We have reached an impasse on the terminology.
No, we have reached an impasse on your understanding of politics and policy. If you can simply admit you were wrong, and that our borders are not open we can continue this conversation.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:51 am to sta4ever
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There aren’t any liberals on here. I
What?
Maybe you consider them commies. There’s a shite ton of those groomer supporting idiots.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:51 am to CleverUserName
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Show me how ignorant I am.
You're already showing everyone.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:53 am to LSUconvert
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You're already showing everyone.
We are waiting.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:57 am to LSUconvert
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No, we have reached an impasse on your understanding of politics and policy.
Do you understand irony? Because you surely do not understand politics.
Words on paper do not close a border.
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