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Since unborn babies don’t have papers, I guess they aren’t humans in your eyes. At least your views are consistent.


:rotflmao: WTF are you talking about?? Holy strawman!!
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86% of those detained have no criminal record. Approximately 95,000 undocumented immigrants live in Minnesota


When.... WHEN will you people quit harping that they "have no criminal record". They are breaking the law and continue to do so!

Again.... any of you care to let me know which laws I'm able to ignore with zero consequences? Anyone?

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These residents contribute over $200 million in annual state and local taxes, primarily through sales, property, and income taxes.


And are also paying lots of those taxes.. even if true and not more leftist fluff... with public assistance and handouts. Which illegals have a much higher rate of participation in.

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I would like to see Trump stop playing games with this and actually get serious about illegal immigration.


Well spread the news to get you fellow goons out of their way and let them do their jobs. Funny.. I dont remember you shouting about doing something about illegal immigration when Biden was waving them in as fast as they could get in. All the while lying to you saying he couldnt stop the flow without congress.
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Why do you have such disrespect for your country and its laws?


It blows me away how easily these drooling drones fight like hell to allow certain people to break law when they themselves cannot.
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Only US citizens are humans. Gotcha.


Nope. Legal citizens residing in their native countries are too.

Sane people of IL:
"Governor. We need to do something about people with 30 convictions committing more crimes!"

Pritzker:
"No worries serf! I'm on it!"
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Former Vice President Kamala Harris is expanding her real estate portfolio. The 2024 Democratic presidential nominee and her husband, Doug Emhoff, have purchased an $8.15 million home in Malibu, California, per The New York Post.



Something something pay your fair share. Something something millionaire's and billionaires. Something something Wealth discrepancy..
We are approaching the definition of "expansion" from two different directions.

Tariffs, in the actual use and existence" in itself is not an expansion. No more than claiming that voting by touchscreen machine would be an expansion of the voting laws. Or semiautomatic weapons is an expansion of the second amendment. All covered under the original intent.

The "expansion" I'm talking about is stuff the founders would have obviously said "oh hell no!" to and you cannot pry out of the claws of government in any way, shape, or form. Again. Great society, patriot act, organization of the HHS department, etc. things that expand beyond the intent of the Constitution without having some judge wink and nod and say it fits.

Also, the people can vote out the imposition of certain tariffs in one election. Not so much the other examples. The imposition of policy changes through will of the people through a fair election is a staple of conservative beliefs. There is no voting out the Great Society. Apparently there is no voting out the Patriot act. But the 2020 election proved that you can alter tariffs in one election. It's still will of the people.



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That’s a dodge, and a poor one.


Nope, not a dodge. But again. The imposition of taxes is a constitutional activity. Spelled out.. not some vague language some activist judge says is spelled out. Love it or hate it.

But you are saying "a current, popular conservative position that supports expanding government power. MAGA supports tariffs. Full stop."

It's not an expansion. It's an original government idea. The great society was an expansion. The patriot act was an expansion. The ""affordable"" care act was an expansion. Tariffs is not an expansion since it's a founders approved means.
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That’s almost a trick question, because most of what’s called “conservative” today is conservative only in branding, not in its actual relationship to government power.


It's actually not. The trick played is people saying they are conservative when they are not.

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But tariffs.



Tariffs have been enacted by the U.S. off and on since 1789. You wanna gripe at someone about the imposition of tariffs? Go shout at the graves of George Washington and the other founders. After all, the founders agreed that tariffs were the most efficient and politically agreeable way of raising public funds.

So that's not a Trump thing. That's a founders thing. And I tend to agree with them more than anyone else.
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That's the point. Now, some people on both sides are craving the control of big government.


No it's not the point. It's not a tit for tat.

It's the Great Society, then Ruby Ridge, then Waco, then "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor while saving 2,500 bucks", then the nuclear option, then FISA abuse, then BS Russian Collusion investigations with FISA abuses, then one National Security advisor is targeted by the FBI for BS reasons, then it's BS it's BS howling about the 25th amendment, then BS Impeachment, then certain people only getting prosecuted for defying subpoenas and other certain people get a pass, then certain people getting perp walked at dawn in front of the news while others skate, then Covid lockdowns-regulations-requirements, then old stuff that used to warrant impeachment is not important anymore, then the 25th amendment is no longer a thought, then it's cocaine in the White House with no answers, then it's not important the president's brother had a company that defrauded Medicaid when the worry a few years ago was of the president's family profiting from the Oval Office, then it's nationwide manhunts with televised perp walks for older people because of 1/06/21,


And then the left flips their shite over law enforcement arresting illegals. Which is an actual constitutional activity enshrined in the Constitution per National Sovereignty.

And then we wind up with "both sides" threads on here with memes from people that can't meme.

Is it really a belief amongst you that the left can do as they please and punish their opponents while the right needs to toe the line "because they are supposed to be principled"?
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Would be an impeachment-level offense. FWIW


Similar to putting on the wrong shoe first in the morning.
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Govern me harder Daddy!


I remember these rallying cries by the left after Ruby Ridge and Waco. During Covid lockdowns. During an administration getting busted for FISA abuse.

Oh.... wait a minute..
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It’s only cool because their big orange fleshlight is in charge. If there was a D next to his name then this sub would be rioting.


Ummm you mean like you folks believed when the FBI was running down people on social security that were walking around an open Capitol on 1/6/21? Remember how that was fun and everyone was getting what they deserved?

Remember prior to that when people were forbidden to assemble and were arrested for it. And you folks were saying how they got what they deserved?

Now for context you can read my other posts in this thread.
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Wanting illegals out of the country and wanting fraud prosecuted is wanting more big Gov?


Better yet. National sovereignty is defined as a function of the US government in the Constitution. Written by the OG small government, people centered, advocates.

It's not a new thing instituted by republicans.
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We went from: “Don’t Tread on Me”

To: “It’s ok - Tread on Me”, “But Tread on Them First”


That needs altering a bit.

It went to:
"We are not going to sit and be restricted, be spied on, be ridiculed, be investigated, be expected to show up for congressional committees due to subpoena and be prosecuted if not, watch others destroy subpoenaed evidence with no consequences, have to the elected president under constant threat of impeachment, have government forced social media censorship, have BS fisa warrants spy on us, etc and just be expected to act nice when the shoe is on the other foot.
Any excuse to get out of that money hole that is the UN.

We keep cutting them huge checks and they keep shaking their fingers at the US in return.
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I think ICE would be benefited tremendously by having agents cease wearing face coverings


Why?

So they can be identified and crazies show up at their house? And when they get shot trying to break in an agents home or physically attacking his family... who's gonna be propped up as the victim again? Since the left uses corpses to advance agenda?

The left needs to either completely apologize about the mask hysteria of the past or shut up completely about it. They wanted it, even if force had to be used to implement and police it, just a few years ago. Now it's the opposite??
Quick over under number on prior arrests?

20? Less? More? Place your bets!
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You can point to crucial moments in our history when the government found a way to gain power, slowly and also quickly at the same time. Unfortunately there are very few moments in history where our government has lessened any of its power.


This is why sane people were asking very big questions during the Covid scare. Stay in your homes! Stay away from others! Stay away! Wear what we tell you! Do not go there! Take this shot or lose your job!

But alas... the people questioning that were deemed outcasts and stupid.

It's why there is constant pushback on ""sensible"" gun laws.

Its why people raised hell about the Biden administration demanding social media screen public speech. And the Obama administration scapegoating a YouTube video while arresting its creator for their frickup in Benghazi.

It's why there was pushback on the government take over of healthcare. Well two fold there... because nothing government touches gets better, cheaper, or more efficient.

It's why there was an uproar over the Obama administration fabricating a reason to use FISA against the Trump campaign to get campaign leverage for Hillary.

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It seems like over the last 20 years or so, our population has been groomed into giving government control. I used to believe conservatives generally wanted the government to have less control, but now I see most people just want the government to control them in a way they like.


I guess I need an example of popular conservative thought that is wanting to give the government more control. Law enforcement of immigration activities doesn't fall into this If that is what you are talking about. That is protecting national sovereignty.

Conservatives, well true ones, want less taxes, less government, less dependence on government, smaller government, and more individual Liberty. Individual Liberty doesn't mean I'm forced to accept someone else's position at the behest of my own though.

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I fear that the political climate today has everyone unable to see the forest through the trees. As long as the government uses its power to advance an agenda we agree with, we are all so willing to just allow them to control us.


The political climate is due to partisan media, the social media hive mind revolution, and hardliners in congress that govern on their own wants and beliefs instead of their districts good.
Is there really any reason for congressman to cover for fraud stealing American taxpayer money? Why would we want that? Unvetted people flocking into the country? Why are they screaming about wanting that?

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I fear for the future of our country when our citizens so willingly allow the government to do whatever it wants and the fight is over what they are doing with their unlimited power and not over the fact that they have that power in the first place.


On a mass scale? Covid woke this generation up to that. But enforcing immigration law isn't this gross, unabated lawlessness that's being portrayed. Arresting single individuals on the beach during Covid lockdowns when no crime was committed was the travesty. Arresting people attending a religious service when no crime was committed was the travesty.

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Aren’t the people supposed to control the government and not the other way around?



Which is why term limits needs to be demanded with as much vigor as the Epstein files were.
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Maga is perfectly ok with people being killed, raped, and beat as long as it isnt them and they think the person is their enemy. These people masquerade as christians, while openly spitting on the words of Jesus and the Bible.


Meanwhile they want multiple time convicted felons released to kill innocent citizens.... want to hide the identity and writings of tranny school shooters so there is no backlash against the tranny...and try to keep violent illegals from being arrested and deported.
Leftists one second:
"ICE is full of NAZIs!!!!"

Leftists next second:
"Prove who you are to the Gestapo!!!"

:lol:

A bunch of people need to go rent SUVs and drive around up there. :lol: