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re: Pornography is not conservative
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:41 pm to the808bass
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:41 pm to the808bass
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You’re living a life of contradiction. Your “pain” when you don’t take care of your children is imaginary in your world of thought. You’re a slave to the imaginary. You imagine people are important to you. They’re not. You imagine an artificial boundary line that comprises your country is important.
Sure, but all of this is subordinated to my POV. If I’m a slave to how neurons fire in my head, aren’t we all. There’s no escaping from that. That’s not a reason for additionally believing in other people’s delusions
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:42 pm to MAADFACTS
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That’s not a reason for additionally believing in other people’s delusions
You’re living a self-contradiction. I’m not. You think that makes you smart. It doesn’t.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:44 pm to MAADFACTS
quote:It does, out of necessity, for you couldn't reason or appeal to morality or science or utilize language or understand beauty (among other things) without the God of the Bible. You have to sit in God's lap in order to slap Him in the face and you don't even realize your dependency upon Him.
At no point does your weird transcendent idea come to play as desperately as you want it too
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:45 pm to The Maj
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this is a pretty fricked up view of your kids... I sincerely hope you do not really have any...
I assure you from their povs they are the most important thing in the universe. That’s how it should be. One day they will stand on their own two feet as a result of that. Until then they are extensions of me just as your children are of your even if you like to pretend otherwise. When you die, all knowledge of your children will go with you, so how can it be otherwise?
I want to point out that this is just reality. It doesn’t mean I hurt or abuse my children. It just means that I know they are secondary characters in the story of my life, just as I am a secondary character at best in the lives of those who know me
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:46 pm to the808bass
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You’re living a self-contradiction. I’m not. You think that makes you smart. It doesn’t.
I don’t claim that I’m smart. I’m just not believing a fairytale because I’m sad without it
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:46 pm to MAADFACTS
What did/do your parents believe?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:47 pm to MAADFACTS
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It just means that I know they are secondary characters in the story of my life, just as I am a secondary character at best in the lives of those who know me
You should seek some professional help... Your "ideals" are one of the primary reasons that the devaluing of life and all the things that go along with it are so prevalent in our society today...
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:47 pm to FooManChoo
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t does, out of necessity, for you couldn't reason or appeal to morality or science or utilize language or understand beauty (among other things) without the God of the Bible. You have to sit in God's lap in order to slap Him in the face and you don't even realize your dependency upon Him.
Yeah Rome and Greece really had a tough go out of building civilizations without the god of the bible. If anything Constantine’s conversing seems to have anticipated Rome’s fall
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:47 pm to FooManChoo
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It does, out of necessity, for you couldn't reason or appeal to morality or science or utilize language or understand beauty (among other things) without the God of the Bible.
You couldn't perceive the idea of stench without a transcendent stench that is perfectly stinky. And that transcendent stench is the God of the Bible.
Checkmate.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:49 pm to MAADFACTS
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Yeah Rome and Greece really had a tough go out of building civilizations without the god of the bible
You need to stay in the kiddie end of the pool.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:50 pm to Lsupimp
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I think we are already there . 2016 proved that, although with a pretty unique candidate in Trump. The coalition is already there, the only partial holdouts remain Christian/ Cultural Conservatives or those who are just morally vain contrarians who enjoy being “ above” the moral and intellectual riff- raff. Now don’t take this as a criticism of Christian or Cultural Conservatives as there is absolutely nothing wrong with defending the greatness of Western Civilization , just that they need to realize that if the ideologically- possessed Leftists complete their project for America, it’s game over for them. If that means pretending you don’t have a boner when a crazy hot pornstar is in your midst, so be it.
I think I disagree overall.
I think 2016 was a limited success in that divergent groups got Trump elected, and Trump stalled a lot of leftist progress while simultaneously getting the leftists to expose themselves and displaying some tactics you can use to combat leftists (or at least troll them).
But I don't think 2016 did anything for "the movement." The country is probably worse off now. More middle class, middle America voters are probably victims of the cultural rot now than pre-2016. Trump got people who didn't side with Republicans to vote for Trump - a political accomplishment. But I question whether any ground was gained in the war on leftism.
Now, none of that is a real attack on Trump. Again, I think he served a purpose. But did Trump beat back radical left movements in this country? No. Actually, he encouraged them to crawl out of their holes. But that's a different thing than actually fighting and winning (or separating) against/from them.
TLDR: Trump got elected on a nationalism platform that is too undefined and flexible to win an ideological war.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:50 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What did/do your parents believe?
My parents were leftwing Catholics who wasted their lives worrying about and caring for the needy because of this “transcendence” that supposedly governs are affairs in complete silence. I assure you, god does not care about the needy, or how much and where you cum, or about you and your petitions. This isn’t god’s fault, he just doesn’t exist. You’ve been given one life by random chance so stop making excuses and go get what you want from it
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:51 pm to MAADFACTS
quote:Nature declares the glory of God. You are believing a fairytale, and one that brings no hope.
I don’t claim that I’m smart. I’m just not believing a fairytale because I’m sad without it
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:53 pm to MAADFACTS
How do you think you were able to overcome their silly trappings?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:53 pm to FooManChoo
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Nature declares the glory of God. You are believing a fairytale, and one that brings no hope.
Nature is a bunch of animals being eaten alive.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:54 pm to Pettifogger
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But I don't think 2016 did anything for "the movement." The country is probably worse off now. More middle class, middle America voters are probably victims of the cultural rot now than pre-2016. Trump got people who didn't side with Republicans to vote for Trump - a political accomplishment. But I question whether any ground was gained in the war on leftism.
I think I largely agree with this. The places that leftism had some losses were dependent upon the ideology of his appointees more than Trump’s views. Trump doesn’t know anything about the education system. But DeVos was able to get some (short-lived) commonsense reforms through by fiat.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:54 pm to MAADFACTS
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Yeah Rome and Greece really had a tough go out of building civilizations without the god of the bible. If anything Constantine’s conversing seems to have anticipated Rome’s fall
You're not advocating for other, different gods.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:55 pm to MAADFACTS
quote:This response shows you misunderstand.
Yeah Rome and Greece really had a tough go out of building civilizations without the god of the bible. If anything Constantine’s conversing seems to have anticipated Rome’s fall
God is necessary for all those things I mentioned. Belief in God is not necessary for those things, however the lack of belief in God and acknowledgement of His divine attributes and power will render your use science, morality, etc. inconsistent with your professed worldview, making you act irrationally from the get-go.
You can claim that air doesn't exist, but you still depend upon its existence to live. God is necessary for life.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:57 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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How do you think you were able to overcome their silly trappings?
I believed earnestly until I was in high school and the towers came down and all the questions I’d been pushing to the back of my mind came rushing forward. I tried to hang on to beliefs for a couple more years but there was always less and less to hold on too. That’s when I realized that it’s all a silly tale. I wish there was a god. I wish that all would be righted at the end of time, and that we see our dead relatives again, and have our questions answered and our woes comforted, but we don’t. So I became a man and decided to live every moment without guilt or concern for others and my life improved immensely
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:57 pm to MAADFACTS
quote:Nature is life and the existence of the heavenly bodies. Nature is all that we perceive with our senses, and all of it declares a God. It's sin that causes us to suppress the knowledge of God and worship other things (usually ourselves and our own autonomy).
Nature is a bunch of animals being eaten alive.
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