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Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:19 pm to imjustafatkid
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I am totally okay with "porn stars don't belong at events for high school kids" being a hill that I'm willing to die on.
As 808 indicated above, it is not even a hill to die on.
It is simply a basic acknowledgment that all such organizations should have a right to decide who attends their events.
Putting that aside, the entire imbroglio begs this question: how was this porn star damaged by this action?
I would argue that many people who never have heard of this performer before now have been offered an occasion — if they are so inclined — to “investigate” more about her “profession.”
What a tempest in a teapot.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yikes, this take is Dave-Rubin-level bad
Adultery isn't either
Because the group of people who promoted Trump as the face of conservatism are now trying to pretend like they didn't...or his moral depravity somehow didn't count, even though it was celebrated.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:22 pm to anc
RINO Cucks: let’s not fight to stop the left’s tranny insanity
Also RINO Cucks: let’s kick people out of our party because they like to frick
Also RINO Cucks: let’s kick people out of our party because they like to frick
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Was she there as a porn entertainer?
Good question... Did she register as Brandi Love? If she did, then I would say you cannot separate her name and what she does for a living...
Personally, I think this was a ploy for her to gin up more publicity for a porn star that is approaching 50 and whose popularity is probably waning some...
In either event, her presence at such an event would be entirely inappropriate...
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:24 pm to FooManChoo
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Really? I'm pretty sure most "Conservatives" prior to the 1960's didn't tolerate or wouldn't have supported tolerating the social issues we tolerate today. I wonder why that was.
It was pretty common for men to use prostitutes regularly in the mid-20th century. They’d wouldn’t have tolerated all the LGBTQABCwhatever nonsense because it’s gross and effeminate. Which a fine reason. But they knew men were men.
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What do you think they meant when they said that we have been endowed by our creator by certain inalienable rights? Where did they get the idea of a creator?
I didn’t say they were atheists, I said they didn’t have a biblical worldview. In actuality they ranged in beliefs from people like John Adams and George Washington who practiced Christianity but whose beliefs were far enough away from the beliefs of modern day evangelicals that they would be rejected bh them to people like Jefferson (the guy who wrote the line you quoted) who wrote his own Bible just to take the magic and miracles out of it, and was in all practical ways an athiest even if he sometimes used ceremonial deisms.
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Why is the US the greatest country in the world? Were the principles that this country were founded on made up out of thin air?
Where do any principals come from? They are thought up by men. In this case by enlightenment era men who were opposed to Christianity because they were the inheritors of centuries of religious war in Europe.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:25 pm to Sentrius
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It’s the same irrelevant brand of libertarianism that has caused the Right to lose major cultural battle for decades.
This has never existed with American conservatives outside of Trumpism. Romney, McCain, GWB, Dole, GB1, Reagan, Nixon, Goldwater, etc. all pandered heavily to the religious right as a policy plank. THAT is what caused you to lose the culture war.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:25 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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As 808 indicated above, it is not even a hill to die on.
It is simply a basic acknowledgment that all such organizations should have a right to decide who attends their events.
Putting that aside, the entire imbroglio begs this question: how was this porn star damaged by this action?
I would argue that many people who never have heard of this performer before now have been offered an occasion — if they are so inclined — to “investigate” more about her “profession.”
What a tempest in a teapot.
At a certain point we should separate the individual from their profession. Do they scrutinize they employment and social credit of all participants?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:26 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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It is simply a basic acknowledgment that all such organizations should have a right to decide who attends their events.
Even this doesn't work b/c a major part of Trumpism that developed was seeking limits on groups allowing participants into their forums (Ex: Twitter).
Trumpism doesn't support THAT plank, either.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:26 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:look, it’s another coomer degenerate
RINO Cucks: let’s not fight to stop the left’s tranny insanity
Also RINO Cucks: let’s kick people out of our party because they like to frick
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:27 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:
RINO Cucks: let’s not fight to stop the left’s tranny insanity
Also RINO Cucks: let’s kick people out of our party because they like to frick
Many conservatives believe that being pro-business is the single most important aspect of conservatism.
There is therefore no reason why a pornstar, a trans "woman" or any other kind of sexual deviant running a small business selling red, white, and blue dilators should be excluded.
And that's why conservatives has not conserved anything and why we see so much degeneracy today in not just all media but the public square as well where children can see it.
This is the trap of social liberalism and I fell down that rabbit hole a long time ago and it is one of the worst ideological and political mistakes I have ever made in my life.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:27 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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simply a basic acknowledgment that all such organizations should have a right to decide who attends their events.
Has anyone in this thread said Turning Point should be forced to admit her? We’ve simply criticized them for their choice.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This has never existed with American conservatives outside of Trumpism. Romney, McCain, GWB, Dole, GB1, Reagan, Nixon, Goldwater, etc. all pandered heavily to the religious right as a policy plank. THAT is what caused you to lose the culture war.
Goldwater wasn’t religious. Nixon wasn’t religious. I honestly doubt Hw, Dole, and McCain were actually religious. Romney was a Mormon. Reagan and W I believe, but most people here hate W. So that’s one good christian president in your timeline which noticeably started in the second half of the 20th century
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:34 pm to MAADFACTS
quote:While all people in all times are sinners, not all cultures tolerate various sins and vices.
It was pretty common for men to use prostitutes regularly in the mid-20th century. They’d wouldn’t have tolerated all the LGBTQABCwhatever nonsense because it’s gross and effeminate. Which a fine reason. But they knew men were men.
Prostitution has always existed and there have always been people who made use of prostitutes. However, such activities were not generally tolerated within our culture since our founding (and before). Prostitution is still illegal in almost all states in our country, even with the level of sexual liberty and promiscuity that exists today.
quote:When I say "biblical worldview", I don't mean "believe everything exactly as evangelicals do today".
I didn’t say they were atheists, I said they didn’t have a biblical worldview. In actuality they ranged in beliefs from people like John Adams and George Washington who practiced Christianity but whose beliefs were far enough away from the beliefs of modern day evangelicals that they would be rejected bh them to people like Jefferson (the guy who wrote the line you quoted) who wrote his own Bible just to take the magic and miracles out of it, and was in all practical ways an athiest even if he sometimes used ceremonial deisms.
I mean that the Bible provides a framework by which reality is interpreted, from morality to science to politics. Not all the founders agreed on everything from the Bible, but the culture was Christianized due to the Biblical framework or worldview that permeated the West at that time. The founders viewed liberty and rights from this paradigm, which is the point of basing rights on being created by God.
quote:Not all principles are thought up by men.
Where do any principals come from? They are thought up by men. In this case by enlightenment era men who were opposed to Christianity because they were the inheritors of centuries of religious war in Europe
You honestly think our founders were opposed to Christianity, and that they were so because of religious wars in Europe? You realize that from the war aspect alone, the founders believed in fighting and dying for their principles and beliefs, right?
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:35 pm to anc
Apparently the problem is White People!
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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did you even read the discussion thread that you just replied to?
Yes, I can read and you said that Trump and Trumpism are specifically to blame for the muddled state of contemporary conservatives. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, that is total B.S.
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you better tell the Evangelicals and social conservatives b/c they're ignoring this to go back to those very policies
I have stated here repeatedly that a vote in this UniParty® charade is a vote for the left or right wing of the Deep State. I have likewise argued that the future of Liberty is this nation is dependent upon subsidiary, nullification and even secession movements at the state level.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:38 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Trump and Trumpism are specifically to blame for the muddled state of contemporary conservatives.
Fact
this thread is a great example. For 4 years, Trumpites pooh poohed conservatisim, and suddenly think its important again?
frick that. Y'all fell for a cult of personality, rejected conservatism and now have developed standards?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:How, specifically?
this thread is a great example. For 4 years, Trumpites pooh poohed conservatisim, and suddenly think its important again?
frick that. Y'all fell for a cult of personality, rejected conservatism and now have developed standards?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:41 pm to FooManChoo
quote:1. Trump spent trillions.
How, specifically?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:43 pm to Zach
quote:
lingerie ads in Sears Catalog back in the 50s.
[loud sigh] =
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