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re: Predictions on Khalil (former Columbia student) hearing today?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:40 am to blueboy
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:40 am to blueboy
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I'm torn on this one. If he wasn't here illegally, he has to have committed an actual crime, right? Did he?
The idea is that he's able to have his permission to be here rescinded by the SoS for having a negative impact on US foreign relations. If the court accepts that reasoning, he can be deported.
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:41 am to Nosevens
Right but it’s the reason for revocation of status that’s being scrutinized.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:43 am to IvoryBillMatt
He will be released and the government will be criticized.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:43 am to Ingeniero
quote:Yeah, that does not sound like a precedent I want to set.
The idea is that he's able to have his permission to be here rescinded by the SoS for having a negative impact on US foreign relations.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:43 am to JimEverett
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I am not sure "proof is irrelevant"
I appreciate your comments, but I think this is the crux of the matter. The government was ordered to produce all evidence it had to support deportation. They elected to submit only a statement from Rubio that his deportation was necessary to support foreign policy objectives.
I think the government wants to establish the precedent that deportation---even of green card holders---doesn't need any evidence other than an assertion by the Secretary of State.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:44 am to riccoar
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That's a valid argument IF that is all they have.
I'll wait until the Justice Dept plays their hand of WHY
I suspect its way more than just saying stupid stuff about Israel
Well the immigration judge has asked for something, anything from the Government and they can't cough it up. Nothing. Not a twatter post, facebook, text message, interview, video clip or sound bite. Nothing, nada, zip.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 10:45 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:45 am to blueboy
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I'm torn on this one. If he wasn't here illegally, he has to have committed an actual crime, right? Did he?
He is not a US citizen. He is here as a guest and can be asked to leave at anytime.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:46 am to Aguga
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He is here as a guest and can be asked to leave at anytime.
I don’t know that is how we actually want things to be.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:46 am to Pandy Fackler
He shouldn't have fricked around. Now he's finding out.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:46 am to IvoryBillMatt
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I appreciate your comments, but I think this is the crux of the matter. The government was ordered to produce all evidence it had to support deportation. They elected to submit only a statement from Rubio that his deportation was necessary to support foreign policy objectives.
I think the government wants to establish the precedent that deportation---even of green card holders---doesn't need any evidence other than an assertion by the Secretary of State.
He gave the "proof" that the statute requires.
I do not mean this disrespectfully, but if people do not like this then their problem lies with Congress, because the language of the statute is pretty clear.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:47 am to Pandy Fackler
Amazed that you choose to die on this hill for the piece of shite.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:51 am to Houag80
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He shouldn't have fricked around. Now he's finding out.
Have you followed the case? The Government hasn't produced any evidence (weak or strong) that he's fricked around though. Unless criticizing Israel is fricking around. I guess it is.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:52 am to Pandy Fackler
What do you not understand about "discretionary"?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:52 am to Indefatigable
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That just seems like it would open a door that we don't want opened.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just observing that, for this round, in this climate, I would be shocked if a DOJ employee risked her job by ruling against the Administration.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 11:58 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:55 am to JimEverett
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He gave the "proof" that the statute requires.
I do not mean this disrespectfully, but if people do not like this then their problem lies with Congress, because the language of the statute is pretty clear.
I get what you're saying now. Thanks. You're right.
FWIW, you weren't close to being disrespectful. Much appreciated.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 10:56 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:57 am to Nosevens
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Holding a student visa is subject to cancellation which then makes it illegally being here.
He's not here on a student visa. He's a legal permanent resident (green card).
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:58 am to IvoryBillMatt
I predict that he will be deported, as he should be under our laws and at the explicit direction of the Sec of State as described in the statute.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:59 am to Houag80
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What do you not understand about "discretionary"?
You're getting sore man. This is nothing to get sore about. The guy has a legal right to sit in front of an immigration judge, and once a determination is made, the appeal process kicks in. There's nothing cut and dry about any of this.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:02 am to Houag80
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Amazed that you choose to die on this hill for the piece of shite.
No one's dying on a hill man. It's only a news story. Some agree, some don’t. That's all.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:03 am to Da #1 Stunna
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I predict that he will be deported, as he should be under our laws and at the explicit direction of the Sec of State as described in the statute.
Some of you are way too comfortable with the SOS potentially being able to just revoke legal residency status on the basis of political speech alone.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 11:04 am
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