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re: Predictions on Khalil (former Columbia student) hearing today?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:04 am to blueboy
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:04 am to blueboy
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I'm torn on this one. If he wasn't here illegally, he has to have committed an actual crime, right? Did he?
Rubio already said that he has broken no laws.
But they are upset about things he said about Israel. Israel First!
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:05 am to IvoryBillMatt
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I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just observing that, for this round, in this climate, I would be shocked if a DOJ employee risked her job by ruling against the Administration.
I hope this will be the rudest statement I ever make on this Board. I don't think this particular judge has many other employment options. Of course, I might be wrong about that.
Well she's made some bold demands and those demands haven't been met. Based on that, maybe she's not so intimidated.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:06 am to Stinger_1066
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Rubio already said that he has broken no laws.
But they are upset about things he said about Israel.
I am interested to see if they try and bring more cause into it than that.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:06 am to Pandy Fackler
Thanks, Pandy.
Abrego Garcia's lawyers didn't seem to think that she was favorably disposed towards their client.
Abrego Garcia's lawyers didn't seem to think that she was favorably disposed towards their client.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:08 am to IvoryBillMatt
I can't listen to that right now. Is he saying Khalil will likely get an adverse determination?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:09 am to Indefatigable
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He is here as a guest and can be asked to leave at anytime.
I don’t know that is how we actually want things to be.
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Another important limitation on lawful permanent residents is that they are subject to the grounds of deportability. If you commit certain crimes or security violations, or even fail to advise USCIS of your changes of address, you can be placed in removal proceedings and deported from the United States.
I'd be interested in learning all of the rigamaroo around "security violations" - definitiion, events, venues of accusation/defense, etc....
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:11 am to Pandy Fackler
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Well she's made some bold demands and those demands haven't been met. Based on that, maybe she's not so intimidated.
Could be. I don't know what to make of her giving Abrego Garcia's lawyers only a few days to review the "evidence" produced by the government.
This is a complicated case. Fast-tracking it means she has made up her mind, which favors deportation in my mind.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:11 am to IvoryBillMatt
Supporting a terrorist organization should be more than enough to expel him.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:12 am to Pandy Fackler
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Well the immigration judge has asked for something, anything from the Government and they can't cough it up. Nothing. Not a twatter post, facebook, text message, interview, video clip or sound bite. Nothing, nada, zip.
They submitted a brief saying he lied on his green card application.
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The Trump administration – after accusing Columbia University graduate and pro-Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil of being a Hamas sympathizer without providing evidence – now says Khalil’s deportation is justified because he did not reveal connections to two organizations in his application to become a permanent US resident, an argument his attorneys call weak.
Khalil failed to state on his green card application he had previously worked for the Syria office of the British Embassy in Beirut and was a member of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East, or UNRWA, the government says, the latter a focus of intense criticism from American and Israeli politicians who accuse it of antisemitism.
Khalil “sought to procure an immigration benefit by fraud of willful misrepresentation of a material fact,” the government wrote in the brief filed Sunday. “Regardless of his allegations concerning political speech, Khalil withheld membership in certain organizations … It is black-letter law that misrepresentations in this context are not protected speech.”
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:16 am to Indefatigable
Okay but being considered a threat to this country is enough ,for any visa to be revoked and scheduled deportation. This is not a case a good student with a being in wrong place but an instigating trouble maker showing allegiance to another non -country while insisting on the death of others, why should this become a continuous problem. The historical record for allowances of this behavior has shown that it never reduces but instead festers.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:16 am to Auburn1968
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Supporting a terrorist organization should be more than enough to expel him.
That would be illegal for Khalil to engage in. There's zero evidence he's done that and Marco Rubio, Secretary of State has said in no uncertain terms, Khalil has not broken the law.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:17 am to Pandy Fackler
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I can't listen to that right now. Is he saying Khalil will likely get an adverse determination?
Not in so many words. The highlights pointing towards that were:
1. Lack of time for Khalil's attorneys to prepare. She denied a motion for continuance.
2. Denial of request to televise all proceedings.
3. Denial of request to compel Rubio's attendance for cross-examination. [He's the only witness for the government, that seems a reasonable request.]
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:18 am to Indefatigable
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I predict that he will be deported, as he should be under our laws and at the explicit direction of the Sec of State as described in the statute.
Some of you are way too comfortable with the SOS potentially being able to just revoke legal residency status on the basis of political speech alone.
Wasn't he present at, and facilitated, protests that took over University buildings, and disrupted the ability of other students to attend class? That alone goes past political speech.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:19 am to Lightning
That news article is from March 25th.
Khalil “sought to procure an immigration benefit by fraud of willful misrepresentation of a material fact,” the government wrote in the brief filed Sunday. “Regardless of his allegations concerning political speech, Khalil withheld membership in certain organizations … It is black-letter law that misrepresentations in this context are not protected speech.”
The emboldened part is illegal. Since that article was written, Marco Rubio has made clear that Khalil has not broken any US law.
Khalil “sought to procure an immigration benefit by fraud of willful misrepresentation of a material fact,” the government wrote in the brief filed Sunday. “Regardless of his allegations concerning political speech, Khalil withheld membership in certain organizations … It is black-letter law that misrepresentations in this context are not protected speech.”
The emboldened part is illegal. Since that article was written, Marco Rubio has made clear that Khalil has not broken any US law.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:19 am to Nosevens
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And ?
Just pointing out that you were wrong about his status.
It calls into question your entire understanding of the issue at hand.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:20 am to Stinger_1066
Criminal Activity:
Being convicted of crimes, especially those involving moral turpitude, can lead to denial.
National Security Concerns:
If you pose a threat to national security, you may be denied re-entry.
Being convicted of crimes, especially those involving moral turpitude, can lead to denial.
National Security Concerns:
If you pose a threat to national security, you may be denied re-entry.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:23 am to Stinger_1066
Visa / Green cards can be terminated by the State Department if they see fit
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:23 am to Pandy Fackler
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There's zero evidence he's done that and Marco Rubio, Secretary of State has said in no uncertain terms,
Its crazy how much attention they give to this non issue.
Its a talking point, histrionic based ideology
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:28 am to Pandy Fackler
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Marco Rubio has made clear that Khalil has not broken any US law
I dont think he made that clear. He did say that under the statute that when actions that are otherwise lawful warrant removal he has to make the determination that it harms foreign policy of the us for him to remain.
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