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re: Question: Why can't Trump send the Marines to protect the border?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:25 pm to Centinel
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:25 pm to Centinel
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They are there purely to support state, local, and federal law enforcement along with National Guard units activated under Title 32 with equipment maintenance, air transport, etc.
So they were sent there and are there legally.
Great...time for a little "mission creep" and light 'em up!
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:26 pm to Dale51
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Are they super busy somewhere else now?
Yea in Asia, Africa, Middle East and Europe
Not to mention they are not a very big branch
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:28 pm to Centinel
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u do realize they are prohibited from performing any law enforcement duties, to include detaining illegal immigrants, seizing drugs, etc., right? They are not even armed.
They are there purely to support state, local, and federal law enforcement along with National Guard units activated under Title 32 with equipment maintenance, air transport, etc.
Yup that’s why the FBI and DEA have guys attached to Special Operations teams to they can technically server a warrant
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:30 pm to volod
quote:weve kept troops deployed into combat areas for damn near 2 decades. I’ll give em a pass.
We don't even need a new spending bill because we have plenty of soldiers stationed at comfortable bases that have been tamed for over 40 years (Germany, Japan, etc.).
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:30 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Yea in Asia, Africa, Middle East and Europe
Get them out of those shitholez countries and bring 'em home. Sizzle up some taco jockeys.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:31 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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StraightCashHomey21
You're at Altus now?
Damn dude who did you piss off.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:31 pm to Dale51
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Get them out of those shitholez countries and bring 'em home. Sizzle up some taco jockeys.
How do you think we project power
Especially from an aircraft carrier
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:33 pm to Centinel
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You're at Altus now?
Been here almost 3 years
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Damn dude who did you piss off.
No idea but I PCS to Bragg/Pope soon
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:37 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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No idea but I PCS to Bragg/Pope soon
Oh god Fayettenam. Hope you're up to date on all your vaccinations.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:44 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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How do you think we project power
Depends on the region and the situation. Let military protect the border until the wall is complete? After that the need for manpower will decline sharply?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:45 pm to volod
quote:Where else in the country do we deploy our more elite armed forces to guard against a low-level misdemeanor?
He's the commander-in-chief. Surely we have enough man power in the Middle East with the Army and Air Force.
The Marines are perfectly capable of doing border patrol should the need arises. Who is against this? We don't even need a new spending bill because we have plenty of soldiers stationed at comfortable bases that have been tamed for over 40 years (Germany, Japan, etc.).
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:47 pm to Big Scrub TX
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to guard against a low-level misdemeanor?
Willful tunnel vision?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:48 pm to Dale51
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Depends on the region and the situation. Let military protect the border until the wall is complete? After that the need for manpower will decline sharply?
If you haven’t noticed Marine Bases are strategically located
Their job isn’t border protection
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:54 pm to Dale51
quote:If you want to change the law, then work to change it. Bottom line: 1st offense illegal entry is a relatively low-level misdemeanor. I'm guessing you've committed a few such misdemeanors during your term as citizen of the US and have never thought twice about them.
Willful tunnel vision?
For example, under-age drinking in Louisiana is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 6 months in prison (the same as 1st offense illegal entry.) I think we should get the Marines out there to make sure L'il Johnny isn't illegally drinking and then driving drunk and/or causing other drunken mayhem.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:58 pm to YF12
quote:A posse comitatus enforces domestic law.
it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army (or Air Force) as a posse comitatus, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress ...
Defense against military invasion is NOT enforcement of domestic law.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:58 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Their job isn’t border protection
Right..it's national security issue to repel an invasion of criminal aliens?
If having an invasion of 20-40 million criminal aliens isn't a large enough invasion of criminals...what would that number be, in your opinion, to justify a military interdiction?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 4:00 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:BHP, there are tons of such asshats here who have been making EXACTLY this argument for more than three years.
Defending the country is NOT the same as enforcing its laws.
yeah..yeah.."but, muh INVASION and shite!". Not the same thing and only a disingenuous asshat will insist that it is.
But welcome aboard.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 4:03 pm to Big Scrub TX
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If you want to change the law, then work to change it. Bottom line: 1st offense illegal entry is a relatively low-level misdemeanor. I'm guessing you've committed a few such misdemeanors during your term as citizen of the US and have never thought twice about them.
This is a non sequitur.
Second offense is a felony. Comparing the invasion of felons with the intent to commit more crimes has nothing in common with drinking a beer before legal age.
Weak analogy.
* I'm sure that teen beer party attendees pay $5000+ to attend each party.*
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 4:10 pm to Centinel
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Oh god Fayettenam. Hope you're up to date on all your vaccinations.
I’m going to live like 45 mins away
It’s not that bad out there anymore
Posted on 2/12/20 at 4:13 pm to Dale51
quote:Immigration is a matter of domestic law. It is not a military invasion ... no matter the numbers involved.
Right..it's national security issue to repel an invasion of criminal aliens?
quote:There is NO NUMBER which would void the Posse Comitatus Act.
If having an invasion of 20-40 million criminal aliens isn't a large enough invasion of criminals...what would that number be, in your opinion, to justify a military interdiction?
If the numbers are adequately-large, Congress can amend the Act.
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