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re: Rand Paul Wants Ted Nugent to Apologize for ‘Offensive’ Attack on Obama
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:51 am to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:51 am to Y.A. Tittle
seriously when my dad got an iphone and an email address a couple years ago, i got some forwards that i hadn't seen since the late 90s 
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:56 am to tigerinDC09
Rand is a Senator and should deal with respect towards the turd in the fish bowl. Nugent while he is a celebrity(that is a stretch to me) he is a private citizen and has the Constitution to back him up on calling a turd for what it is, shite.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
For the record, I think Rand Paul did the right thing. Not just politically speaking, but it was the right thing to do. What Nugent said was uncalled for, it makes no sense, and it gives people an excuse not to take him seriously in the future. I like Ted Nugent, and I think he can speak intelligently to the issues. He only impairs his credibility when he goes over the top.
Besides, THERE ARE SO MANY FACTUAL THINGS YOU CAN SAY TO CRITICIZE OBAMA. Just stick to the factual stuff, Ted, and leave the trash talking to the NBA.
EDit - leave the trash-talking to the left-wing kooks, too. They engage in this sort of thing 10X more than conservatives do.
Besides, THERE ARE SO MANY FACTUAL THINGS YOU CAN SAY TO CRITICIZE OBAMA. Just stick to the factual stuff, Ted, and leave the trash talking to the NBA.
EDit - leave the trash-talking to the left-wing kooks, too. They engage in this sort of thing 10X more than conservatives do.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 10:01 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:23 am to KCT
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THERE ARE SO MANY FACTUAL THINGS YOU CAN SAY TO CRITICIZE OBAMA. Just stick to the factual stuff,
i agree, in general (that's why you rarely see me personally insult people on this board)
shite really started getting "personal" with clinton, and that was in large part due to the fact that clinton had a HUGE target on his back because of all of his scandals (he made it easy for conservatives to call him sleazy)
then came Bush, where liberals raised the level of attack (war is easier to create false narratives than sex scandals)
then came Obama.
there is no need to pull a Nugent and be an emotional thinker and devolve into insults. this applies to all sides and all politicians (in general commentary about them. obviously if they do something legitimately fricked up, being negative towards them is fine in my book)
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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there is no need to pull a Nugent and be an emotional thinker and devolve into insults. this applies to all sides and all politicians (in general commentary about them. obviously if they do something legitimately fricked up, being negative towards them is fine in my book)
Amen!
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
You make a good point, SFP. I'm probably more conservative than you are, and I can honestly say that there are so many things about Obama that bother the hell out of me.
People like to talk about conservatives using "code words" to ztir people up, and I'm sure that has been done. Especially in the past. Terms like "silent majority" and "Middle America" probably did have double meanings. That's exactly how I feel about Obama's comment that he wanted to "fundamentally transform America." There was a lot more to that statement than what some people understood. I don't think there's any doubt but what Obama was raised to believe that America is fundamentally bad, inherently racist, etc.
I mean, here's a man who could've done a lot to improve race relations in this country, but what did his mindset actually lead him to do? He wrongly spoke out about the Cambridge Police matter. I think he was wrong about the Trayvon Martin matter, too, but even if he was right, why cherry pick one incident? Obama also recently tried to excuse his falling approval rating during 2013 by saying, "some people don't like me because I'm black.". That's a true statement, but it doesn't explain his declining popularity in YEAR FIVE of his presidency.
That's why, even though I wish people like Nugent would not engage in over the top rhetoric, I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION. I get completely pissed off by Obama's antics and general dishonesty all the time. I try to argue facts here, and I think I do that 90% of the time.
But, I'd be lying if I said I didn't understand the deep hostility that many, many people harbor towards this dishonest President, who seems to be singularly ungrateful for the opportunities this great nation has afforded him.
People like to talk about conservatives using "code words" to ztir people up, and I'm sure that has been done. Especially in the past. Terms like "silent majority" and "Middle America" probably did have double meanings. That's exactly how I feel about Obama's comment that he wanted to "fundamentally transform America." There was a lot more to that statement than what some people understood. I don't think there's any doubt but what Obama was raised to believe that America is fundamentally bad, inherently racist, etc.
I mean, here's a man who could've done a lot to improve race relations in this country, but what did his mindset actually lead him to do? He wrongly spoke out about the Cambridge Police matter. I think he was wrong about the Trayvon Martin matter, too, but even if he was right, why cherry pick one incident? Obama also recently tried to excuse his falling approval rating during 2013 by saying, "some people don't like me because I'm black.". That's a true statement, but it doesn't explain his declining popularity in YEAR FIVE of his presidency.
That's why, even though I wish people like Nugent would not engage in over the top rhetoric, I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION. I get completely pissed off by Obama's antics and general dishonesty all the time. I try to argue facts here, and I think I do that 90% of the time.
But, I'd be lying if I said I didn't understand the deep hostility that many, many people harbor towards this dishonest President, who seems to be singularly ungrateful for the opportunities this great nation has afforded him.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:52 am to tigerinDC09
Paul is continuing his efforts to show that he's the mature, sensible, contemplative candidate for 2016. I think it is a wise move.
The Tea Party absolutely has a tone problem, which is why they're totally incapable of reaching the middle of the country. Rand has that background, and will need their help, but he can't win a national election draped in Tea Party paraphernalia.
The Tea Party absolutely has a tone problem, which is why they're totally incapable of reaching the middle of the country. Rand has that background, and will need their help, but he can't win a national election draped in Tea Party paraphernalia.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:55 am to Pettifogger
Brilliant move by Paul and one he should continue. Nugent is the perfect "bad guy" to rail against.
Btw, Obama referred to himself as a mongrel and I was upset then (I'm biracial, myself).
Btw, Obama referred to himself as a mongrel and I was upset then (I'm biracial, myself).
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:07 am to RollTide4Ever
Here's one aspect of this story which is really illuminating, imo. Watch how much attention the media will give this story, and then compare it with the media's lack of attention to what Andrew Cuomo said about pro-life and pro-2nd Amendment people not being welcome in New York.
On the one hand, you have an ex-musician making a stupid comment. Like I said earlier, I'd put it on the same level as any stupid remark made by a liberal celebrity like Cher or Roseanne Barr.
On the other hand, you have the most powerful elected official in New York saying that conservatives who disagree with him on abortion or gun rights don't even belong in his state.
(1) which story will get more attention?
(2) which story should get more attention?
On the one hand, you have an ex-musician making a stupid comment. Like I said earlier, I'd put it on the same level as any stupid remark made by a liberal celebrity like Cher or Roseanne Barr.
On the other hand, you have the most powerful elected official in New York saying that conservatives who disagree with him on abortion or gun rights don't even belong in his state.
(1) which story will get more attention?
(2) which story should get more attention?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:29 am to HonoraryCoonass
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Ted Nugent doesn't speak for the Tea Party, and I don't buy into the idea that the Tea Party has a "tone" problem.
This.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:31 am to HonoraryCoonass
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Ted Nugent doesn't speak for the Tea Party, and I don't buy into the idea that the Tea Party has a "tone" problem.
Right. The amount of political ignorance today is astounding. Everything is generalized for the lazy.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:33 am to KCT
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Besides, THERE ARE SO MANY FACTUAL THINGS YOU CAN SAY TO CRITICIZE OBAMA. Just stick to the factual stuff, Ted, and leave the trash talking to the NBA.
I agree with this 100%.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:38 am to KCT
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But, I'd be lying if I said I didn't understand the deep hostility that many, many people harbor towards this dishonest President, who seems to be singularly ungrateful for the opportunities this great nation has afforded him.
I don't understand it. Obama may be the best thing that's happened to the Republican Party in 10 years. The Repubs are doing nothing to help themselves, but Obama is tanking the view of the Dems.
Republicans should love the guy.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Right. The amount of political ignorance today is astounding. Everything is generalized for the lazy.
I don't think there is any ignorance involved in assessing the "tone" problem of the TP. You can claim it is a listener problem, but that doesn't change the fact that the TP doesn't resonate with a huge swath of the country.
The Nugent thing is just indicative of a pretty common problem with the TP: lack of central organization. Of course, the TP prides itself in throwing off some of the strategic processes that the GOP engages in, but ultimately they'll have to do more of it to gain a more valuable foothold.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:59 am to Pettifogger
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, but that doesn't change the fact that the TP doesn't resonate with a huge swath of the country.
There is no T.P. It's been years and people still think there is some mythical tea party. There isn't.
It's a bunch of different groups, most formed for the purpose of raising money that represent everything from moderate Democrats to libertarians.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 12:10 pm to Pettifogger
I hear you, Roger, but I think we're talking about 2 different things. You're basically saying that Republicans should like Obama because he is single-handedly trying to sink the Democratic Party. I agree with that, and also with your point that the Republicans are too dumb to take advantage of it.
On the other hand, I'm talking about people who genuinely deplore Obama because of who he has shown himself to be. He has accomplished more than 99.9% of the rest of us (talking about his resume as opposed to tangible accomplishments), and yet he seems to have a huge, almost totally unwarranted chip on his shoulder against America.
To show you how dumb I am, I honestly thought that 4 years of the Obama clown show would wake America up, but it didn't. Now, I even wonder if 8 years will do it. The media's treatment of Christie shows us what they will do to any potential threat to Queen Hillary(although, I don't think HRC will get the 2016 nomination).
On the other hand, I'm talking about people who genuinely deplore Obama because of who he has shown himself to be. He has accomplished more than 99.9% of the rest of us (talking about his resume as opposed to tangible accomplishments), and yet he seems to have a huge, almost totally unwarranted chip on his shoulder against America.
To show you how dumb I am, I honestly thought that 4 years of the Obama clown show would wake America up, but it didn't. Now, I even wonder if 8 years will do it. The media's treatment of Christie shows us what they will do to any potential threat to Queen Hillary(although, I don't think HRC will get the 2016 nomination).
Posted on 2/21/14 at 12:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There is no T.P. It's been years and people still think there is some mythical tea party. There isn't.
It's a bunch of different groups, most formed for the purpose of raising money that represent everything from moderate Democrats to libertarians.
We understand that, but the country as a whole doesn't appreciate it. They hear the most vocal folks with TP labels: Palin, Cruz, etc. and form a belief about what the TP is. If it doesn't coincide with them, as it frequently doesn't, the TP or anything under that label is not for them.
Right now, the TP is a badge of honor in primaries and a cement block in general elections. Whether or not it should be either is a separate issue.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:03 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Btw, Obama referred to himself as a mongrel
Just great ... now, we'll have the M word.
It can join the N word in that category of words that are super-duper-taboo for certain people use ... but super-duper-not-a-problem for another person to use.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:08 pm to SpidermanTUba
I didn't look at what Nugent said, but calling politicians names is an aged old tradition in the U.S.A. and didn't start when we got a black president, so you are just wrong, as per usual.
Paul is trying to trianglate as Clinton did in the early 90s.
Paul is trying to trianglate as Clinton did in the early 90s.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:13 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
Several questions about this:
1) Why do liberals give a shite what Ted Nugent thinks about Obama? Their media will tell us what Nugent thinks about Obama, whether Nugent thinks it or not, says it or not.
2) Who cares what Rand Paul says about Ted Nugent saying something about Obama?
Ted Nugent thinking Obama is a worthless TPOS ... is nothing new.
1) Why do liberals give a shite what Ted Nugent thinks about Obama? Their media will tell us what Nugent thinks about Obama, whether Nugent thinks it or not, says it or not.
2) Who cares what Rand Paul says about Ted Nugent saying something about Obama?
Ted Nugent thinking Obama is a worthless TPOS ... is nothing new.
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