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Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:51 pm to SallysHuman
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I think, at that point, it would be welcomed actually.
People would be scared, insecure and looking for anything to believe in.
Fair point. But there will be those left who had the head knowledge. So they will be in the very much minority.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:53 pm to BCreed1
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is the USA rapture ready? Are you?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:53 pm to BCreed1
Probably s mixture, but my guess more who welcome it or think they do.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:54 pm to BCreed1
Where does it talk about it being done in secret?
The "like a thief in the night" simile describes the whole of humanity being caught off guard, not that it happens and no one knows what went down
The "like a thief in the night" simile describes the whole of humanity being caught off guard, not that it happens and no one knows what went down
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:55 pm to BCreed1
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Fair point. But there will be those left who had the head knowledge. So they will be in the very much minority.
Their life will be hard. Going with Rapture theory they will either assimilate or have a terrible time- either way though, it'll suck.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:56 pm to BCreed1
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As I understand it, Christians will no longer be here. That's the largest religion in the world. That event would suddenly make Islam the largest and most dominant.
And the world would collapse into chaos immediately.
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Western governments were formed, regardless of what people think they know, on Christian beliefs. With the rapture, there will be nothing to stop the transformation into an islamic rule.
Medieval at best Islamic rule, after witnesses the proof of the Christian religion
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We are already seeing what the effects would be. Even here in the USA, we see it. We know. We are doing nothing about it now. So what will keep it from totally taking over if the rapture takes place?
If right, is the USA rapture ready? Are you?
What the frick?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:57 pm to Tigerinasia
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There is no such thing as the rapture in Christianity. It is a modern invention that was never believed before by any orthodox Christian. Carry on.
Precisely. It is an entirely extra biblical wedge issue used to separate and divide Christians.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:59 pm to VoxDawg
What do u believe it divides Christians into?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:00 pm to Tigerinasia
That's simply not true. Writings from figures like Irenaeus in the late 2nd century contain passages such as his statement about the Church "being suddenly caught up" from this earth.
Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, The Didache, The Epistle of Barnabas, and The Shepherd of Hermas all speak of imminency.
Furthermore, The Shepherd of Hermas speaks of the pretribulational concept of escaping the tribulation.
The Latin phrase for "caught up" is "rapiemur" or "rapturo," which comes from the Latin verb rapio or rapturo, meaning "to seize," "to snatch," or "to carry away". This term is the source of the English word "rapture" and is most famously used in the biblical text of 1 Thessalonians 4:17. The Latin translation of the Greek word harpazo as rapturo is what gave rise to the English theological concept of the rapture.
Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, The Didache, The Epistle of Barnabas, and The Shepherd of Hermas all speak of imminency.
Furthermore, The Shepherd of Hermas speaks of the pretribulational concept of escaping the tribulation.
The Latin phrase for "caught up" is "rapiemur" or "rapturo," which comes from the Latin verb rapio or rapturo, meaning "to seize," "to snatch," or "to carry away". This term is the source of the English word "rapture" and is most famously used in the biblical text of 1 Thessalonians 4:17. The Latin translation of the Greek word harpazo as rapturo is what gave rise to the English theological concept of the rapture.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:00 pm to ValZacs
Christians have been divided since about day 2 after Jesus died, prior to the Resurrection even
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:00 pm to BCreed1
Personally, I could care less what happens after the Rapture… cuz I ain’t gonna be here. I’m saved, my wife and kids are saved, my siblings and their spouses and children are saved, and my parents are saved. We gonna all be partying around the Throne and doing backflips down streets of gold while the caliphate are killing each other and reaping Gods justice down here. Cuz this messed up world is the best they’re ever gonna get.
Right now though, my heart breaks for all souls who don’t know the One and True King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Gonna REALLY be horrible for those left behind and have to reap Gods terrible judgement on sin. Once Gods people are gone and his hand no longer is stayed, this world will be destroyed by HIM. Not global warming, nuclear war, or cow farts. It will be by God… and there will be NO DOUBT of that to those left behind.
Right now though, my heart breaks for all souls who don’t know the One and True King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Gonna REALLY be horrible for those left behind and have to reap Gods terrible judgement on sin. Once Gods people are gone and his hand no longer is stayed, this world will be destroyed by HIM. Not global warming, nuclear war, or cow farts. It will be by God… and there will be NO DOUBT of that to those left behind.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:01 pm to ValZacs
Three separate groups, most immediately: pre-, mid -, post-tribulation Second Coming believers.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:02 pm to VoxDawg
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There is no such thing as the rapture in Christianity. It is a modern invention that was never believed before by any orthodox Christian. Carry on.
Precisely. It is an entirely extra biblical wedge issue used to separate and divide Christians.
Yeah, but it's not. Not unless you prescribe to the Bible being wrong.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
I get that, just wondering if anything specific on the rapture issue.
Eta: i see his response
Eta: i see his response
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:02 pm to BCreed1
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The Latin translation of the Greek word harpazo as rapturo is what gave rise to the English theological concept of the rapture.
Those linguistic hurdles / gymnastics alone designate that this is clearly not a belief that was held by the apostles,
...And didn't come on the scene until well into the Middle ages
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:04 pm to BCreed1
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If right, is the USA rapture ready? Are you?
I am. Governments will never be.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:04 pm to VoxDawg
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VoxDawg
Vox, not following you here. Are you saying that the "rapture" is used to divide the church because some believe Pre Trib, others mid trib, Post Trib?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:04 pm to VoxDawg
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Precisely. It is an entirely extra biblical wedge issue used to separate and divide Christians.
I don't understand why it should divide Christians. We all should be ready for what comes next, whatever it is- we are called on to be ready.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:04 pm to BCreed1
You're looking for folks to agree with you on this matter, so that's not going to happen. Not from me, at any rate. Enjoy your evening.
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