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re: Remember: They Stole the Election
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:13 pm to NSWDevgru
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:13 pm to NSWDevgru
Do you people just not know about all the fraud that's been discussed on the board for the last 2 months? I'm trying to figure out if you are just ignorant or running interference for criminals because of your tds.
At this point, to say there's no evidence is just flat earth. It's not even an option on the table. It's not even controversial
At this point, to say there's no evidence is just flat earth. It's not even an option on the table. It's not even controversial
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Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:07 pm to Game2620
quote:this is such a great question and I tried this in my thread on the subject
Which policy of Biden really pumps you up?
You can judge for yourself how it's going
Posted on 1/15/21 at 1:16 pm to ItzMe1972
Posted on 1/15/21 at 2:47 pm to cgrand
I know of no "industry experts" who have debunked the claims about dominion. None. I don't know if they are referring to the cisa who made a claim, but I haven't seen any data that backs up their claim.
"Public officials" is a laughable assertion. They're the ones involved in the improprieties. They certainly aren't going to indict themselves and they wouldn't know the first thing about the topic anyway.
Just because this outlet bent the knee judicially means nothing. The Powell case will be interesting though. Dominion has been threatening her for weeks but still hasn't done jack crap other than rattle sabers.
"Public officials" is a laughable assertion. They're the ones involved in the improprieties. They certainly aren't going to indict themselves and they wouldn't know the first thing about the topic anyway.
Just because this outlet bent the knee judicially means nothing. The Powell case will be interesting though. Dominion has been threatening her for weeks but still hasn't done jack crap other than rattle sabers.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/15/21 at 4:42 pm to SBC
Biden got 80 million votes.
Keep telling yourself that.
Keep telling yourself that.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 5:01 pm to bfniii
quote:
flat earth.
flat earthers are nourished by opinions from "experts" with little to no credibility, crowd-sourced analysis originating in message boards, conspiracy laden, meandering youtube videos, and the rejection of government and media sources who they accuse of being part of cover up.
yep, this isnt anything like the election denier groupthink at all.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:02 pm to cigsmcgee
quote:wow. you NAILED the left. that is exactly what they are doing.
flat earthers are nourished by opinions from "experts" with little to no credibility, crowd-sourced analysis originating in message boards, conspiracy laden, meandering youtube videos, and the rejection of government and media sources who they accuse of being part of cover up.
as for the election fraud
the experts definitely had credibility and no one has debunked their analysis
crowd sourced analysis does not equal false analysis
originating on message boards is not true
does meandering equal false now?
um, the govt were the ones who were not only backing the fraud, they have been stonewalling investigation, demonizing the opposition and now censoring alternative voices but the left somehow finds that not at all suspicious or untrustworthy
the media -
i noticed you conveniently left out all the things i posted in my thread that i've cited multiple times itt and that you haven't responded to. why is that?
these people
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:45 pm to bfniii
quote:
why is that?
there really isnt a way to have a good faith dialogue with a true believer. youve shown this to be true over and over.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:54 pm to cigsmcgee
quote:
there really isnt a way to have a good faith dialogue with a true believer. youve shown this to be true over and over.
^This. If they really had "proof" they wouldn't be wasting our time here on a message board. They'd be in court, making themselves famous, basking in the adulation of their fellow "patriots".
Instead, they're here, uselessly perpetuating the circle jerk of insanity this board has become.
Says it all.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:04 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
quote:
They'd be in court, making themselves famous, basking in the adulation of their fellow "patriots".
agreed.
however, at this point, im wishing they had their day in court, just to watch all the backtracking on display. and while i think that it might make a difference, im sure there would just be another conspiracy and tick tock around the corner.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:15 pm to cigsmcgee
quote:
im wishing they had their day in court,
They don't really want their day in court, because they know they'd lose. And then they'd have to face reality.
Here's 60 Minutes on the Georgia Election:
quote:
More than a month ago, Sterling warned that "someone's going to get shot" due to the Trump-inflamed conspiracy theories. Those unfounded theories have continued online and in far-right circles as Tuesday's runoff elections in the state approach. Those races will decide which party controls the U.S. Senate.
"It's whack-a-mole again," Sterling said Monday, speaking in front of a poster that had many of the debunked claims Trump mentioned. "It's Groundhog Day again."
quote:
“It is time for leaders in the national security community, in the Republican party to stand up, accept the results and move forward,” said Chris Krebs, the former director of the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency at the Department of Homeland Security.
Krebs, a lifelong Republican who was fired by Trump last month, appeared on “Face the Nation” on CBS Sunday morning.
“Every court case or filing has been rejected by the courts,” he said. “And so any fraud claims, any security claims, any sorts of things along those lines, we’re just not seeing supporting evidence.”
Georgia election official refutes Trump's voter fraud claims
Georgia Election Official: Don't Let Misinformation 'Suppress Your Own Vote'
Georgia Republican election official says Trump’s false voter fraud claims undermine democracy
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:45 pm to cigsmcgee
quote:exactly. the people on the left on this board will not accept ANY amount of evidence. pictures, videos, eyewitnesses, experts, statistical data, nothing.
there really isnt a way to have a good faith dialogue with a true believer
if you people had refutations of the evidence that's been discussed for weeks, you would have posted it a long time ago. you've got nothing other than "nothing to see here." you can't be reasoned with at this point. you're so committed to your bias that you can't admit what is objective evidence.
i've been challenging dems to go to that thread and debunk ANYTHING there
crickets
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:47 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
quote:and yet the left loves to trash up this place with 0-50 in court cases. the judges didn't let one scrap of evidence make it into a court case. NOW, scotus is reversing their stance with their latest tx decision.
They'd be in court
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:10 pm to bfniii
quote:
exactly. the people on the left on this board will not accept ANY amount of evidence. pictures, videos, eyewitnesses, experts, statistical data, nothing.
It's not our job to accept evidence. That's for the the courts to decide. And they have decided. You just don't like the result.
quote:
i've been challenging dems to go to that thread and debunk ANYTHING there
Again, why? What difference does the opinion of people on a message board make to the governance of this country.
You want to impress us? Take your evidence to court and win. Nothing short of that will do.
CBS did a nice piece on the election...
6 conspiracy theories about the 2020 election – debunked
quote:
On the day Congress officially counted the electoral votes making Joe Biden the next president, chants of "Stop the Steal" echoed through the U.S. Capitol. The deadly assault followed months of President Trump's insistence that Mr. Biden's win could only be explained by rampant fraud, and he encouraged his supporters to demand a different result.
But none of the claims of widespread fraud or election theft hold up under scrutiny. Election officials around the country and the Trump administration's own attorney general and cybersecurity experts verified the election was the "most secure in American history." All of the lawsuits claiming otherwise were rejected by state and federal courts.
quote:
No, Dominion voting machines did not change or delete votes for Trump
For QAnon and Trump supporters Harry Formanek and Traci Specht, this was one of the most damning fraud allegations. They believe that Dominion voting machines used in some states were somehow programmed to either flip votes to favor Mr. Biden or delete votes for Mr. Trump — a story spread by Mr. Trump and his lawyers.
To get a better understanding of these claims, CBS News spoke with Deen Freelon, an associate professor at the University of North Carolina's School of Media and Journalism, who studies disinformation, hyper-partisan communication and conspiracy theories.
This claim, Freelon said, is probably the "wildest" and "largest category" of electoral disinformation in 2020.
He pointed out that Dominion systems have been used for years and were used not only in swing states, but also in states that heavily leaned in favor of Mr. Trump. He also pointed out that those who believe this claim only used it to cast doubt on the presidential race — and not the Senate and House races that were decided on the same ballots.
"The story really just does not add up at all when you really look at its particulars," he said. "Folks are just relying on the idea that they can just advance this claim without any evidence and folks will accept it."
Dominion says it provides voting systems in 28 U.S. states and has supported "tens of thousands of elections." It says all of its machines have undergone "certification and logic accuracy testing before the election," publicly and with the oversight of bipartisan election inspectors. The company also says all votes counted by the system can be easily checked with hand audits.
The company has filed a defamation suit against Sidney Powell.
6 conspiracy theories about the 2020 election – debunked
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:28 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
quote:you keep bringing stupid garbage to the board yet you won't address any of the allegations that have been discussed for the last 2 months. why is that?
TigersOfGeauxld
quote:yet the left loves to keep count of how many times challenges were brought to court. do you people even think about your statements at all before making them?
They don't really want their day in court, because they know they'd lose
quote:
60 Minutes
quote:you don't get it do you? you don't see it. you're just taking them at their word. people who were biased against trump before the election. how gullible are you? you keep complaining about the right believing propaganda while you're posting propaganda. the right is just asking for investigation.
State officials said they are investigating a total of 74 potential felons who may have cast ballots.
The state says the actual number of underage voters was zero.
He said the actual number was zero.
Investigators have only found three such voters.
Germany said they have found a total of two
quote:have you seen the video of the advocacy center? renders this "refutation" pretty laughable
1043 voted using a PO box
quote:oh so there's been problems. go on...
He added the cases would be referred to the state election board for possible penalties
quote:really? well that's interesting. show me the video of the entire night for all drop boxes. until then, why would anyone take that comment at face value? trust us. nothing happened.
Germany says video reviews found none.
“Who were the vendors that collected the ballots from the drop boxes? Where are the logs of their receipt by the vendor at the drop box and subsequent delivery to the election board? How do we know that these ballots were not tampered with, or that a number of them were not discarded along the way from the drop box to the election board?”
"Many of these absentee ballot drop boxes were paid for by a private party — the Mark Zuckerberg-funded Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL), which made the placement of these drop boxes a requirement for local counties that received grants and also funded additional election workers who transported ballots from the drop boxes to local election offices"
oh well that's not suspicious at all
and then there's the gabe sterling video.
quote:oh well that's interesting. glad we're going to get that done now that we have an illegitimate president.
Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger told the committee he supports changing the law to require voters requesting absentee ballots to provide a reason for requesting the ballot. Currently, Georgia has a "no excuse" law, giving voters carte blanche to request absentee ballots.
this is the 2nd time you've tried to bring this lame, elementary bullcrap to these threads. why don't you try to address the evidence i posted in my thread? because you've got nothing. all you know to do is parrot what your handlers told you, like a good npc
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:33 pm to bfniii
quote:
why don't you try to address the evidence i posted in my thread?
As I said before, it's not my job. It's the job of the judicial system. Trump and those who follow him had two months and 60 court cases to prove their allegations. They failed.
If you think you can do better, than go for it. Other wise, it's time to move on.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 11:54 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
quote:EXACTLY. you are an npc. you can't think for yourself. all you can do is rely on what you are told by bureaucrats. THANK YOU for making my point for me.
It's not our job to accept evidence
you're not interested in evidence. you're not interested in justice. you're only interested in being told what to believe. you don't want to examine the evidence and make your own conclusion.
quote:except they didn't. they punted. every single case except for the wi sc case which was ruled in favor of the plaintiffs. judges stepped in and DISMISSED cases which is totally different than letting the evidence have it's day in court. you still don't get it.
That's for the the courts to decide. And they have decided
quote:wow. just wow. so you would have been a british loyalist. that's all you had to say. you don't even recognize that the colonists fought for their liberty doing EXACTLY what you are saying not to do.
What difference does the opinion of people on a message board make to the governance of this country.
THE DIFFERENCE IT MAKES is you fighting for your freaking liberty against corrupt career politicians who are hurriedly censoring your access to information and demonizing the opposition. does that sound american to you?
do you even know what a patriot is?
the reason why you won't go to that thread is because you know you don't have refutations to that evidence. if you had it, you would have posted it a long time ago.
quote:people tried. they were stymied by the judges. that point is really escaping you. get a clue - THE JUDGES DIDN'T WANT THOSE CASES IN THEIR COURTS. it had nothing to do with the evidence and they even said so. see the mi judge's decision.
Take your evidence to court and win
quote:even the judges admitted they didn't want the courts to be the arbiters of the election and you're acting like everything hinges on the courts. you're just not getting it.
Nothing short of that will do
quote:
CBS did a nice
yeah i bet that's real impartial quote:what in the freaking hell is this? why in the world would anyone ask him a cyberdata question?
Deen Freelon, an associate professor at the University of North Carolina's School of Media and Journalism, who studies disinformation, hyper-partisan communication and conspiracy theories
quote:and people have objected to them for years, but you knew that already didn't you
Dominion systems have been used for years
what's this? election fraud?
nbc news warning about dominion
even the freaking nyt knows the truth
where is the usa today, today?
texas rejected dominion? why is that?
democrat senators warn about dvs vote switching
you seriously don't think through anything you post which makes them laughable. you are a cardboard cutout who wants to be told what to think and what to do. there's no point in discussing with you believe you can't think past your nose.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:12 am to Fewer Kilometers
Pennsylvania and Georgia. Both had multiple voters registered at post office addresses.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:15 am to bfniii
quote:
you're not interested in evidence.
Hard to be interested in what's not there.
Go ahead, prove me wrong IN COURT. I'm challenging you to prove all of us doubters wrong. Surely, that's not too much to ask if you so strongly believe?
Otherwise, you're just a bag of wind.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 12:17 am to SipGirl
quote:
Pennsylvania and Georgia. Both had multiple voters registered at post office addresses.
This has been addressed by Georgia election officials:
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