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re: Roman's 1:18-32 spitting some fire
Posted on 3/31/23 at 9:46 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 3/31/23 at 9:46 am to burger bearcat
The basic scenario of poor leadership has happened to powerful societies many times in history. Many religions speak of similar situations. Can you show me where gods power has been clearly seen without using the bible to prove the bible? Can you show me where people are worshiping images of reptiles which it clearly states as part of the story? Why do you believe the bible to be true comparatively to other religious doctrines besides the fact it was the religion you were born into.
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Posted on 3/31/23 at 9:59 am to Sailin Tiger
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Sailin Tiger
Why do you ask? Are you honestly seeking answers or only to poke holes?
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Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. — 1 Corinthians 2:12-14
There will never be enough evidence to convert a man…
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For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; — Ephesians 2:8
I’m about to lift off so will be unavailable for a couple of hours…
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 10:01 am
Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:14 am to burger bearcat
Amen. Paul telling it like it is. That so many are supporting this insane left wokeness and abortion when so plainly evil and insane has always baffled me. I think the answer is
They are spiritually darkened and are unable to see. I don't care what they look like, where they work, what charities they work for, if they go to church every Sunday, if someone supports this leftist insanity, they are under some evil influence.
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For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
They are spiritually darkened and are unable to see. I don't care what they look like, where they work, what charities they work for, if they go to church every Sunday, if someone supports this leftist insanity, they are under some evil influence.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:24 am to Sailin Tiger
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Why do you believe the bible to be true comparatively to other religious doctrines besides the fact it was the religion you were born into.
I was born into it. But never really accepted it until maybe 6 or 7 years ago. There was a period (teen/early 20s) I flat out rejected it and believed exactly what you say about all the other religions.
But as for my personal journey to Jesus Christ. The real moment it kicked in with me is when I was actually truly introduced to Scripture and saw the true wisdom of God. It is undeniable once you really lay your pride at the door, and spend time alone with just yourself and God. I really can't describe it in any other way, than if you try it for yourself.
I used to go around begging God for a sign or to see something in nature to prove his existence. All while rejecting his written word. It was all right there, and if you let God in you can truly see his Divinity. It may sound crazy, but don't knock it until you try it.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 10:44 am
Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:28 am to burger bearcat
I actually randomly opened my Bible , landed on and read Roman's 1 last night. It doesn't get a whole lot clearer.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:29 am to Tyger32
quote:I was, and I'm still Reformed (by the grace of God)
Were you raised in the reformed tradition?
Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:33 am to burger bearcat
4 phaggots/pedos downvoted you as they wallow like pigs in their iniquity.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:44 am to Sailin Tiger
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Why do you believe the bible to be true comparatively to other religious doctrines besides the fact it was the religion you were born into.
Faith is required to believe. To argue about faith is like chasing the wind or explaining the color purple to a blind person. Some believe and some don't. Useless to debate it.
Paul also said,
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For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
To see “through a glass” — a mirror — “darkly” is to have an obscure or imperfect vision of reality. The expression comes from the writings of the Apostle Paul; he explains that we do not now see clearly, but at the end of time, we will do so.
Better idea we debate it then.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:53 am to ShinerHorns
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God will punish us as a country for what is happening to Trump.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 10:59 am to Sailin Tiger
quote:Yes, but that's not what this passage is about. This passage is about explaining God's judgement on people for their idolatry and rejection of the one, true God.
The basic scenario of poor leadership has happened to powerful societies many times in history. Many religions speak of similar situations.
quote:Yes. All of creation speaks to God's existence. There are also logical proofs that can be derived through philosophical pursuit based on seeing how the world works.
Can you show me where gods power has been clearly seen without using the bible to prove the bible?
By nature, people understand that we live in a world that is bigger than ourselves, and we long for purpose, which can only exist in a world that was purposefully created. By our nature, we "know" God exists, and we see His hand in creation, which is often called "natural revelation". Natural revelation shows that there is a God. Special revelation (God's Word in the Bible) explains who that God is and our relationship to Him and need for a savior in Jesus Christ.
quote:People were worshiping images of reptiles, birds, and humans when this passage was written, but you're missing the point. It's not that we have to be worshipping images of reptiles to be the ones Paul was talking about, it's that people make all kinds of idols to "worship" instead of God. We do that all the time, even if we don't bow down to them or light incense to them.
Can you show me where people are worshiping images of reptiles which it clearly states as part of the story?
We are created in the image of God to worship Him, and we have His moral law written on our hearts as His image-bearers. Because of this, we have a natural desire to worship, but our fallen state and sinful hearts take true worship and pervert it, worshipping other things (any other thing but God, usually), including making idols and gods of the earth, of some fuzzy concept of social justice, of things like sports, cars, or sex, or we simply make ourselves gods of our own lives, where our goal in life is to appease ourselves and make ourselves happy.
quote:You do realize that missionary work exists, right? Not every person was born into a family that believes the Bible, nor do all people born into Christian families remain Christians by identification. That is such a naive and simplistic view of things.
Why do you believe the bible to be true comparatively to other religious doctrines besides the fact it was the religion you were born into.
For me, there are many reasons why Christianity is true compared to all other religions and worldviews. I believe it actually comports to reality (especially totally depravity and fallen humanity). I believe there is a lot of factual history to support it. I believe there are logical and philosophical reasons that make Christianity to be preferred to all others, including and especially the transcendental argument for the biblical God's existence that make Him necessary for us to understand anything. Lastly, I believe the Holy Spirit testifies to the truth of it to me.
After studying various religions over the years, as well as other non-religious ideologies and worldviews, I'm more solid in my convictions that the Bible is true and that Christ is Lord and Savior than ever before in my life.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 11:12 am
Posted on 3/31/23 at 11:03 am to Sailin Tiger
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Can you show me where gods power has been clearly seen without using the bible to prove the bible?
Are you asking for proof of God's power without using the Bible to support this idea? I'm not quite sure what you're asking.
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Can you show me where people are worshiping images of reptiles which it clearly states as part of the story?
Assuming you're talking about the bronze serpent that Moses was instructed to create in Numbers 21:5-9. The jews didn't worship this, they simply looked upon it for healing.
ETA I didn't realize what you were stating here was specific to Romans 1. But yeah, Foo pretty much covered this in his post above this one. Paul was referring to pagans choosing to worship idols instead of the God who created them basically.
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Why do you believe the bible to be true comparatively to other religious doctrines besides the fact it was the religion you were born into.
I don't subscribe to the doctrine of sola scriptura, so my formal answer would probably be different than most others in this thread would give, and would involve words such as "inspiration", "inerrant", "infallible", etc.
But long story short, most other religious doctrines are written by one person. The Bible is unique in that it is a collection of many different books, written by many different authors over many centuries. Yet, not one passage contradicts another. Many older books predict things that take place in books written much later. Later books contain fulfillment of things that were prophesied about much earlier. Eye-witness testimonies from various writers that all say the same things play a role, so on and so forth.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 11:26 am
Posted on 3/31/23 at 11:07 am to burger bearcat
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They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.
If this doesn't describe our society today, I don't know what does.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 11:27 am to Tyger32
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spending the last 50 years “legally” murdering babies.
Can not believe we killed millions of babies, we will all be held accountable for this as individuals and as a country.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 11:35 am to burger bearcat
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Spent some time in Romans this morning. This is certainly not for the faint of heart. I imagine most modern Pastors, Priests, and mega-church preachers won't even touch these passages, out of fear of offending the "seekers"
Started reading Romans yesterday afternoon, I have to say I was so drawn in by the Apostle Paul’s preaching I ended up reading some more at bedtime…..it’s great scripture,
Posted on 3/31/23 at 12:05 pm to Sailin Tiger
I was in the same boat years ago. But God cannot be proved. He didn't want it that way. He wanted hearts drawn to him in simple childlike faith. God made it so simple that a child can understand it, but his truth is also bottomless. You can spend a lifetime drawing nearer and nearer.
Although when you come to Jesus, he will give you 'proof' of his existence and nearness.
Matthew 11:25-29
At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the 'wise' and 'learned', and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.
All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
Although when you come to Jesus, he will give you 'proof' of his existence and nearness.
Matthew 11:25-29
At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the 'wise' and 'learned', and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.
All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
Posted on 3/31/23 at 12:07 pm to burger bearcat
Verses 24 thru 32 spells it all out.
It's what we are seeing today.
It's what we are seeing today.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 12:13 pm to burger bearcat
Whoooweeee….Amen!
Posted on 3/31/23 at 12:20 pm to burger bearcat
Posted on 3/31/23 at 12:24 pm to Sailin Tiger
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Why do you believe the bible to be true
Better question.
Why do YOU not?
Posted on 3/31/23 at 12:50 pm to Tyger32
I'm not worried about it. God is good. God's will will always prevail.
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