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re: Roy Moore likes em young, apparently
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:00 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:00 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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B) Of course he is, you ask any knowledgeable American who their top 3 constitutional law scholars are and AD will be on everyon'e list somewhere. If not at the top
I'm guessing I know more appellate lawyers than you and I doubt anyone I know would name him #1. I'm biased because I don't know many folks in criminal appeals, but needless to say, Dershowitz is not "almost universally believed to be" America's preeminent con law expert. If you're judging this on who the American public believes is the top con law expert, you're still wrong, but Dershowitz has some name recognition so you may be slightly less wrong than you would be otherwise.
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C) It's completely relevant, as you are acting as if it is some bizzre claim to make when in fact it is not, LOTS of legal minds think Trump has been denied his civil rights in this whole bizarre situation.
It's not relevant. My point had nothing to do with Trump or what people are doing to Trump. It has everything to do with how religious leaders seemingly care more about promoting and defending Trump than using TV time to talk about Christianity.
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:01 pm to mmcgrath
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Moore met the mother and daughter outside of a child custody hearing. So pretty good odds that "Pop" wasn't around and that the girl would be home alone at some point.
You've contemplated such a scenario/plan, before, I see.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:01 pm to LandofDixie
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I worry about what a Republican Party looks like when you replace Christian morality with cynical nihilism.
This is freakin grand!!
Libs before; All you Christians do is push your morality down our throats!! Just quit already!!
Libs now; How dare y'all vote for someone without any moral convictions according to what a woman said 38 years ago.
Oh the humanity!!
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:02 pm to Lg
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Libs before; All you Christians do is push your morality down our throats!! Just quit already!!
valid point
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Libs now; How dare y'all vote for someone without any moral convictions according to what a woman said 38 years ago.
should have stopped at the first point
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:05 pm to Pettifogger
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should have stopped at the first point
Is that not what he just said? As a lib he's worried about the Republican party's morality?
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:07 pm to Iosh
Of course it's already been said but if this actually happened it would have come out years ago when you live a high profile life like Roy Moore. He's held major offices before. The alleged victim wouldn't hold this in their back pocket on the off chance Roy Moore ran for US Senate one day at age 70. It would have come out when he was Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. Or when he ran for governor.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:09 pm to The Boat
Did you apply this same logic to harvey weinstein accusers?
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:09 pm to LandofDixie
So Moore is guilty. Just like that; because you want him to be.
No investigation. No due process.
It's Roy Moore, so it must be true.
A real moral observation.
No investigation. No due process.
It's Roy Moore, so it must be true.
A real moral observation.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:10 pm to Lg
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Is that not what he just said? As a lib he's worried about the Republican party's morality?
I would just leave it at liberals using a faith they've consistently bashed to bolster their political opinions. You don't need to tie the circumstances of the Moore accusation in to make your argument, and I think it's actually better without doing that.
That 38 year old accusation could be totally true, in which case, it's now undermined your point.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:11 pm to WaveHog
The Weinstein accusers had their jobs and careers to think about due to the pressure the Hollywood elites and leftists put on them to not come out about their abuse.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:11 pm to WaveHog
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Did you apply this same logic to harvey weinstein accusers?
I wasn't aware Harvey Weinstein had an election coming up a few weeks after the accusations started flying.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:11 pm to The Boat
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Of course it's already been said but if this actually happened it would have come out years ago when you live a high profile life like Roy Moore. He's held major offices before. The alleged victim wouldn't hold this in their back pocket on the off chance Roy Moore ran for US Senate one day at age 70. It would have come out when he was Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. Or when he ran for governor.
Or until WaPo reporters came to your rural area and started pressing you for details?
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:12 pm to Pettifogger
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That 38 year old accusation could be totally true, in which case, it's now undermined your point.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:12 pm to The Boat
Hillary dicking around with Russia, blames Trump
Dems caught being sexual deviants, blame a Republican up for election of same thing
Seems to be a pattern. Makes you think
Dems caught being sexual deviants, blame a Republican up for election of same thing
Seems to be a pattern. Makes you think
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:13 pm to Lg
I realize that was probably an overly thought out critique of what was essentially a legit argument, so sorry
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:13 pm to Perfect Circle
I'm jumping into this way too late, and this issue isn't particular to Roy Moore, but of a number of these cases.
Moore has run for elections, what? 15 times now? Has been the topic of national and regional/state scrutiny on an annual basis...makes the runoff and 4 weeks before the election someone calls him out for an allegation from 40 years ago?
He very well may have done this, but the timing is so convenient its got to be scrutinized (e.g. did she get paid to release the story?)
Moore has run for elections, what? 15 times now? Has been the topic of national and regional/state scrutiny on an annual basis...makes the runoff and 4 weeks before the election someone calls him out for an allegation from 40 years ago?
He very well may have done this, but the timing is so convenient its got to be scrutinized (e.g. did she get paid to release the story?)
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:14 pm to SDVTiger
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So this is the Dems new strategy
And if this one doesn't stick, they'll find more and more, willing to lie for political power.
Dems are shameless pieces of shite.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:15 pm to Pettifogger
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Or until WaPo reporters came to your rural area and started pressing you for details?
Odd that WaPO reporters would zero in on this particular woman. And to what purpose?
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:15 pm to Pettifogger
How would the WaPo reporters even know to come snooping?
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:16 pm to Godfather1
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Odd that WaPO reporters would zero in on this particular woman. And to what purpose?
I think it's totally reasonable to ask for details about how they got wind of her story and honed in on it. I think the article is fairly well written in describing how they contacted and interviewed her, but it's a fair question
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