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re: Run 2.23 for Arbery #werunwitharbery
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:39 am to Flats
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:39 am to Flats
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Again, I'm not making that argument and I am well aware that its bull shite.
When you say “this is the correct answer”, agreeing with person who plainly IS making that argument, it looks like exactly that.
I believe I said that in reference to Arbery being "the one" case that actually was a black dude unnecessarily killed by a racist white dude.
That IS the correct answer.
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:04 am to mouton
That day ? Looks like he didn’t get a chance to keep it did he
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:09 am to 1BIGTigerFan
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You realize he tried to take a guy's shotgun away from the wrong end?
Because the baw with the shotgun was trying to cut him off.
Do citizens have the right to forcibly kidnap someone because they set foot on a construction site?
I have little doubt he was stealing or casing the place to steal later, but the young guy with the shotgun broke the law when he gave chase then tried to stop the guy with a shotgun.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:12 am to AggieHank86
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I am even willing to give Cletus the benefit of the doubt and assume that he did not chase and kill Arbery JUST because he was Black.
Is there any evidence this is race based?
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:15 am to Azkiger
I believe the actual owner of the house under construction stated that based on what he'd seen and otherwise knew, he didn't believe Arbery had been up to no good in his property either on or before the day in question. That should carry a great deal of weight.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:19 am to Jeauxs Geaux
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I believe I said that in reference to Arbery being "the one" case that actually was a black dude unnecessarily killed by a racist white dude.
That IS the correct answer.
You quoted this:
quote:
Of all the black guys that got unnecessarily murdered by racist white rednecks last year, this guy was the one. No fricking excuse whatsoever
And said it was the correct answer. He's making two claims there. One is implicit, one is explicit, and several people have challenged him on his "of all the black guys" implication, as if this is going on all over the country. I believe you, but it looked like you were agreeing with both.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:20 am to Azkiger
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Is there any evidence this is race based?
These days, I don't think you will find many cases with direct evidence that race was related.
In this case, I believe that guy with the shotgun said "fricking N-word" after Arbery fell to the ground. That certainly won't help his case in regards to a hate crime.
The problem I have with the narrative being falsely reported is that this that their motivation was purely racial. On NPR the other day, they said "Video shows Arbery gunned down while jogging." They didn't just shoot some random dude taking a jog, but that's what most dummies believe.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 8:25 am
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:23 am to Flats
quote:Those folks obviously have defective sarcasm meters.
several people have challenged him on his "of all the black guys" implication
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:24 am to davyjones
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I believe the actual owner of the house under construction stated that based on what he'd seen and otherwise knew, he didn't believe Arbery had been up to no good in his property either on or before the day in question. That should carry a great deal of weight.
A decade ago it would, but today? Not so much. Say the wrong thing and you could have BLM people trying to get you fired, waking you and your neighbors up at 3AM with bullhorns, etc.
While I do go on construction sites to view the interior layout of a home on occasion, I don't "jog" there in the sort of attire Arbery did. And I don't haul arse the second someone sees me poking around.
If Arbery was that scared of the neighbors he wouldn't have "jogged" there in the first place.
Having said all that we don't know for sure Arbery was trying to steal something, or possibly causing it for theft later. And even if it were true that doesn't warrant neighbors giving chase with guns drawn.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:26 am to SUB
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I believe that guy with the shotgun said "fricking N-word" after Arbery fell to the ground. That certainly won't help his case in regards to a hate crime.
Is that on video?
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:27 am to Azkiger
quote:Witness statement from the guy in the trailing vehicle.quote:Is that on video?
I believe that guy with the shotgun said "fricking N-word" after Arbery fell to the ground. That certainly won't help his case in regards to a hate crime.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:27 am to SUB
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In this case, I believe that guy with the shotgun said "fricking N-word" after Arbery fell to the ground.
Maybe he's an aspiring rapper?
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:29 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Witness statement from the guy in the trailing vehicle.
Wasn't he supposedly also chasing Arbery?
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:30 am to Azkiger
quote:Yes.
Wasn't he supposedly also chasing Arbery?
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:33 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Yes
Has he been charged with anything?
Posted on 2/25/21 at 8:51 am to Azkiger
quote:Yes.
Has (the third guy) been charged with anything?
They waited several weeks after charging the father/son, and then they charged him with felony murder.
My first thought is that THIS charge will probably not stick, but I've not given it a LOT of thought.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:02 am to AggieHank86
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My first thought is that THIS charge will probably not stick, but I've not given it a LOT of thought.
It should, he was in his car and admitted to trying to block Aubrey several times.
If the charges are dropped that'd make me suspicious of his claims.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:27 am to Azkiger
quote:Apparently, the underlying felony on which they are basing the "felony murder" charge is "criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment."quote:It should, he was in his car and admitted to trying to block Aubrey several times.
My first thought is that THIS charge will probably not stick, but I've not given it a LOT of thought.
quote:I suspect that the question on the underlying felony will be whether he had a good faith belief that he was acting under the auspices of the Georgia statute on "citizen's arrest." We will see.
16-5-41. False imprisonment
(a) A person commits the offense of false imprisonment when, in violation of the personal liberty of another, he arrests, confines, or detains such person without legal authority.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 9:39 am
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:54 am to RazorBroncs
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I've seen you say numerous times throughout the Arbery discussion that you and your wife walk through houses under construction "all the time, hundreds of them."
I don't recall saying "hundreds" are "all the time." I do recall saying dozens and this is over a 20 year span. I also recall when the Aubery case became news lots of other posters saying the same thing. Are you denying that it is fairly common for people to walk through houses under construction?
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