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re: Sarah Silverman on Abortion
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:47 am to themisfit
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:47 am to themisfit
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her main point is that religion and politics shouldn't be tied at the hip which I agree with.
I agree that the you shouldn't just vote for legislation that goes with your religious beliefs. I definitely do.
My only problem here with you is that her main point may be about the tie between religion and politics, but her supporting example is irrelevant to it, which makes the whole argument moot until she comes back with better examples.
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:56 am to MrTide33
Yeah but its just that an example. An example used in my opinion she used purely based on timing and what the people making the psa told her to use.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:02 am to themisfit
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Yeah but its just that an example. An example used in my opinion she used purely based on timing and what the people making the psa told her to use.
Maybe so, but she also advertised for her lady parts organization whatever. It was all based on abortion.
If you make an argument, you can't use one incorrect example and have a successful argument.
See watch:
Chick-fil-a is an anti-gay organization. Their founder in a private interview said that he opposes homosexuality. Help stop the intolerance by boycotting Chick-fil-a!
The whole argument is tossed because the example doesn't prove the thesis. Chick-fil-a may be an anti-gay organization, but that argument did nothing to prove it
*We can leave this thread alone. I agree with the premise that religion and politics should not be closely tied together, I just believe that her argument for it sucked and misrepresented the abortion issue.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 1:04 am
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:43 am to BeeFense5
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All you have to know is Vegas bengal claims to be a catholic yet is a full on supporter of murdering children. People like that are a scourge on the church.
You just broke one of the 10 Commandments. Never have I ever said I'm for murdering children. If you die before going to confession, you may be joining some abortionists.
As for abortion, I'm in the majority:
quote:LINK
Half of U.S. Catholics overall (51%) say that abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 44% say it should be illegal in all or most cases.
Eta I also believe drugs should be legal, and prostitution but besides smoking pot on occasion in my younger days, I don't partake in either. You see one can be in favor of the legality of something and not believe it's proper.
I know that concept is foreign to someone like you who wants the government to tell people what to do but it's really none of my or uncle sam's business. And I'm glad to see most Catholics agree with me.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 1:49 am
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:51 am to NC_Tigah
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What is abortion at 40wksEGA?
Did she advocate abortion at 40 weeks? I didn't watch the entire thing but I didn't see anything resembling that position.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:52 am to NC_Tigah
quote:good guess. I'm a first trimester guy except for exceptions.
My guess is VB would differ substantially from the "abort-any-baby-regardless-of-viability" views of Rex et al.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:54 am to NC_Tigah
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I just have enough respect for VB to assume you aren't.
now if other right wingers were as sane as NC, I wouldn't have to use the term "yahoos" which actuallY I only use on this board.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:55 am to NC_Tigah
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What is EGA?
quote:
It is a VERY standard abbreviation.
... in the Marine Corps.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:16 am to Vegas Bengal
quote:Did she advocate for restrictions on abortion?
Did she advocate abortion at 40 weeks?
I didn't see anything resembling that position.
Nope.
She advocated for abortion.
That's it.
Period.
Nothing less.
No qualifications.
No exceptions.
Now you can argue this Jewish bimbo is too stupid to fully comprehend what advocacy of unfettered abortion really means. But she clearly strains to have her audience assume otherwise.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 2:51 am to NC_Tigah
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Jewish bimbo
I'm anti-abortion, but why does the fact that she's Jewish keep coming up?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:13 am to northshorebamaman
quote:Perhaps you are unfamiliar with her?
'm anti-abortion, but why does the fact that she's Jewish keep coming up?
She is unabashedly Jewish.
It is a front and center proposition in her schtick.
E.g.,
quote:
It turns out there was something far more shocking than her thin skin, though, and that was the thing viewers noticed on her skin during the interview: The cross pendant she was wearing on her necklace!
Silverman fans everywhere (or at least those who read Heeb) where thrown off by the Christian paraphernalia, questioning whether one of the Jewiest female comedians around had jumped ship.
Thanks to the magic of the Internet, answers came quickly, with Sarah’s Dad and sister posting clarifying comments to the Heeb piece.
From her dad Donald: “I told Sarah that her nana (long passed) wanted to know about the cross. Sarah told me to tell Nana she’s still a Jew. It came from something she wore on a movie set.”
And next, her sister, Rabbi Susan Silverman: “I’m her rabbi sister and called her and asked WTF? She got it, like our dad said on a recent movie set and she just liked that it pointed to her boobs. Oy.
So to answer as to why the fact that she's Jewish keep coming up:
(1) Because she makes no secret of her chosen Faith.
(2) Because she chose to belittle a different Faith, generalize it, and tie it specifically into a stretched political pretext.
(3) Because antitheists here were ironically taking pleasure in this Jewish woman's derogatory attitude toward Christians.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:27 am to NC_Tigah
I'm not unfamiliar with her. She identifies as an ethnic Jew. Do you understand the difference?
Seems contrary to your points 1-3.
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You know, it's funny. I'm so associated with being Jewish -- and I do it myself -- but I have no religion.
Seems contrary to your points 1-3.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 3:31 am
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:46 am to NC_Tigah
She said one thing and that was fertilized eggs were not people. There's a big difference in aborting fertilized eggs and infanticide.
And on the Jewery, she makes a lot more fun of Judaism than Christianity.
Once again, don't be like Muslims who get offended at anyone ridiculing their religion and make it more than it is.
I can assure you one thing, none of us knows the truth. We can take what's been passed on, we can apply it to common sense and science, and that's it. And common sense tells us that a perfect being is incapable of being butthurt. So don't sweat it.
And on the Jewery, she makes a lot more fun of Judaism than Christianity.
Once again, don't be like Muslims who get offended at anyone ridiculing their religion and make it more than it is.
I can assure you one thing, none of us knows the truth. We can take what's been passed on, we can apply it to common sense and science, and that's it. And common sense tells us that a perfect being is incapable of being butthurt. So don't sweat it.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 3:47 am
Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:10 am to northshorebamaman
quote:Her claim as to "having no religion" about as accurate as Bill Maher claiming he's libertarian, but whatever floats your boat.
I'm so associated with being Jewish -- and I do it myself -- but I have no religion.
quote:So you'd like the specification Ethnic Jewish Bimbo.
She identifies as an ethnic Jew. Do you understand the difference?
Really?
Bottomline, it's a difference with no distinction whatsoever in this instance. None.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:14 am to anc
One of the dumbest videos I've seen in a long while.
frick Sarah Silverman's views on abortion.
She's made me laugh about other things, though, and that's all I care about, tbh.
frick Sarah Silverman's views on abortion.
She's made me laugh about other things, though, and that's all I care about, tbh.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:22 am to NC_Tigah
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So you'd like the specification Ethnic Jewish Bimbo.
Really?
Of course not. Bimbo is sufficient. If you're an anti-Semite, just say it. Don't beat around the bush. Does your opinion on her necessitate noting her ethnicity? She's not a religious Jew, so what does her non-religion have to do with your opinion?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:26 am to anc
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Scripture tells me that wanting to punch Sarah Silverman in the face is equal to murder. I know this, yet I still desire to punch her in the face after the initial shock of this video.
However, I believe that my sin of murder has already been paid for.
I suspect there have been psychopaths throughout the history of man that have felt this way....
Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:29 am to germandawg
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I suspect there have been psychopaths throughout the history of man that have felt this way....
Nah, psychopaths believe that their actions are so logical they don't deserve consequences.
Believing that one's sins have been atoned for does not absolve one from negative repercussions.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:06 am to Vegas Bengal
quote:No. It is extremism cloaked in a veil of understatement or deceit that I'm railing on.
Once again, don't be like Muslims who get offended at anyone ridiculing their religion and make it more than it is.
* E.g., The Science teacher who uses auspices of alternative theory to tell her class the earth is actually only 6000 years old, or that evolution does not exist in any form.
* E.g., David Duke covering his racist bigotry by espousing only mainstream views as if they are all inclusive of his beliefs.
Silverman has extreme views on the subject. It's part of her public persona. To imply her POV is confined to "fertilized eggs are not people," is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 5:35 am to NC_Tigah
quote:correction: you're implying no restrictions. She SAID nothing about no restrictions.
Silverman has extreme views on the subject. It's part of her public persona. To imply her POV is confined to "fertilized eggs are not people," is ridiculous.
quote:
Silverman describes a time when a very unlikely nice Jewish boy showed up in her living room to ask her to be a vessel of His word. They just hung out, watched "NCIS," and had a heart-to-heart about the mysteries of life, such as when life begins.
"At 40!" Jesus joked. But then he got serious. "Fertilized eggs aren't people, people are people."
In keeping with his message of peace, he continued: "But people who believe fertilized eggs are people are people too. You have to love them. You're not better than them."
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 5:42 am
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