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re: SCOTUS decision Navy v. Egan. The president has authority to classify.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:33 am to mahdragonz
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:33 am to mahdragonz
You and your ilk are full of shite.
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:38 am to oogabooga68
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That process is Trump saying "I break with thee, I break with thee, I break with theee...." then he throws dog poop on your shoes....
He is a wild and crazy guy
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:40 am to mahdragonz
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You can't magically delicious think things from classified to unclassified.
Actually when you are president, yes you can.
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But there is a process that will have evidence of that document status.
Not all the time. There are examples of this not being the case.
How about all the classified documents that Obama has?
To be fair, it's not just Obama. It's Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc.
When the president takes these documents they are assumed declassified.
But this is different I guess.
The hypocrisy is literally astounding. It is being raised to a deafening level. Summer of love rioters and looters, they are good.
January six mostly peaceful protest bad.
Every other president judged one way, Trump judged another way.
I mean the benefits of being a Democrat are just amazing.
It really is what Trump said a long time ago. They are coming for you. He's just in the way.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:40 am to mahdragonz
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But there is a process that will have evidence of that document status.
Oh yeah? Who does the president report to for this process?
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:41 am to GumboPot
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This certainly implies the president as CiC has the power to declassify also.
Merely by thinking it and not notifying or registering that decision. President-king!
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:54 am to Powerman
And this is the reason they don’t want the “classified” info looked at other than DOJ people or one’s they can manipulate. They want the conviction an taint that comes with it to shut him down. If the information is revealed they know it’s irrelevance would work against their intentions.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:00 am to BlueHeeler
Crossfire documents although would help him obviously , they cannot be released as you said but for a different reason. Durham investigation is not complete and release of documents would itself be against the law. I myself tend to believe this drawn out investigation is itself a deep state affair to keep Trump from being able to disseminate the material. Durham has suggested it seems that investigation is coming to a end and no heavy indictments will arise, of course not because of DC two step. This will keep Trump hands tied for at least 2years
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:02 am to cwill
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Merely by thinking it and not notifying or registering that decision. President-king!
Well, President cwill, the FBI is aware you had an arms reduction meeting with the Russians but you didn’t register your decision to declassify that information. Espionage act violation!
Do you not see how silly that argument is?
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:08 am to GumboPot
Supremes have ruled on this twice. All saying the same.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:09 am to mahdragonz
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He does. But there is a process that will have evidence of that document status. You can't magically delicious think things from classified to unclassified.
“It’s nuanced.”
- every fagtard on the left
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:14 am to Snazzmeister
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Well, President cwill, the FBI is aware you had an arms reduction meeting with the Russians but you didn’t register your decision to declassify that information. Espionage act violation!
Do you not see how silly that argument is?
I see how silly your argument is.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:52 am to cwill
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I see how silly your argument is.
SCOTUS with the decision in the OP (Navy v. Egan) and Clinton's sock drawer case apparently think you are silly.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:53 am to GumboPot
It’s clearly written in the constitution, we don’t need a SCOTUS ruling to understand this.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:54 am to mahdragonz
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But there is a process that will have evidence of that document status.
"I, President, declassify this document. Signed, President."
Wow. What a process.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:56 am to SixthAndBarone
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It’s clearly written in the constitution, we don’t need a SCOTUS ruling to understand this.
You are right. But SCOTUS rules on stuff that is clearly in the constitution all the time.
We need SCOTUS rulings for our appeal to the ultimate judicial authority because what appears obvious to us may not be obvious to the media, left wing nuts, lawfare, etc.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:59 am to mahdragonz
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But there is a process that will have evidence of that document status.
Not quite right. There is a process for everyone under the Office of the President.
That authority originates from the Office thus the Office (ie: the President) is the source of any such process. As such, the process is whatever the sitting President says it is at the time.
Don't believe me? Find the law, statute or directive which mandates a specific process for the President to classify or de-classify anything and post the link here.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:01 am to cwill
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Merely by thinking it and not notifying or registering that decision. President-king!
Please link the process, law, statute, etc. which mandates how a President must classify or de-classify something.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:13 am to Bard
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Find the law, statute or directive which mandates a specific process for the President to classify or de-classify anything and post the link here.
No link, but the Atomic Energy Act covers classification of certain nuclear secrets.
But this is all moot. Neither Trump nor his lawyers have claimed under oath that he declassified any of the stolen documents that the FBI recovered last month. And they've had numerous chances to do just that.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 11:15 am
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:26 am to BamaAtl
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No link, but the Atomic Energy Act covers classification of certain nuclear secrets.
The NRC receives its authority to classify information from the commission members who oversee it, they receive their authority from the Office of the President (who appoints them).
Authority for classification doesn't flow upward, it flows only downward.
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