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re: Should we bring back the literacy test?

Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:15 am to
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:15 am to
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Those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it.




You mean history where political parties use ignorant voters to elect petty tyrants?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:24 am to
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How many people would fail that test?

At least 40% of the population.

That would be good.

We could mollify the masses by allowing them to vote for National Prom Queen/King, That represents the content of their vote anyway.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:40 am to
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Someone said it earlier, conflict of interest.


How is it a conflict of interest?
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:05 pm to
I lean Republican but I don't think IQ/public assistance tests would have the favorable result that many in this thread assume they would.

Just sayin.
Posted by redbaron
Member since Aug 2011
757 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:49 pm to
They have nothing to lose by voting for welfare. It's a complete freebie.

Go figure, the party that takes from those who actually contribute and redistribute to those who do not, is quite popular among the do-nots.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Posted by redbaron
They have nothing to lose by voting for welfare. It's a complete freebie.



Yeah, OK, but that's not a conflict of interest.
Posted by redbaron
Member since Aug 2011
757 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:13 pm to
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Yeah, OK, but that's not a conflict of interest.


Fair. Poor choice of words on my part.

Situations like that one make me wonder how it would be if the US was an actual democracy, and not republic. Imagine voting for the actual bills instead of voting for a representative that has carte blanche for two/six years.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:34 pm to
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but that's not a conflict of interest.



It absolutely is.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:39 pm to
No, it isn't. Who's interest is in conflict?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:44 pm to
Common definition:

quote:

the circumstance of a person who finds that one of his or her activities, interests, etc., can be advanced only at the expense of another of them.


The citizen on public assistance is incentivized to vote against the best interest of the citizenry.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:53 pm to
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The citizen on public assistance is incentivized to vote against the best interest of the citizenry.


Everyone who votes has a conflicting interest with some segment of the citizenry. That's not a "conflict of interest" as that term is commonly understood.
Posted by geauxldeneye
bossier city, louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:58 pm to
{{{How about those who contribute to society and those who don't?}}}

In the interest of fairness and plain common sense; why should someone who pays no taxes be allowed to have a say in whether or not I should pay more?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 2:02 pm to
Sorry that you can't see clearly.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 2:03 pm to
Sorry that you don't understand "conflict of interest". GLTY.
Posted by redbaron
Member since Aug 2011
757 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 2:08 pm to
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In the interest of fairness and plain common sense; why should someone who pays no taxes be allowed to have a say in whether or not I should pay more?
I agree with you, but just to play devil's advocate:

-Why should someone who doesn't own a business be able to have a say in what rate businesses are taxed at?
-Why should someone who doesn't own property have a say in property tax rates?

Think the key is being able to objectively differentiate between "contributors" and "non-contributors" to society.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 2:10 pm to
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Should we bring back the literacy test?


Of course we should. It's never going to happen though.

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What we really lose that much from not letting illiterate people vote?


Nope. Only unwanted problems.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 2:10 pm to


Looks like we both dug in deep.

Time to declare an impasse.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17501 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 2:10 pm to
Will never happen but I think it's reasonable to establish some kind of minimum threshold. We can start by verifying citizenship and residency.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 2:11 pm to
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Time to declare an impasse.




But I am right...objectively so.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15013 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 2:12 pm to
it would probably reduce a significant portion of both the democrat and republican party voting base

This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 2:13 pm
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