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re: Sonic commercials very woke
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:23 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:23 pm to mmcgrath
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Are interracial couples a "left wing" thing now?
On this board, yes. I've been told multiple times that, because I'm married to a black woman, I'm a social justice warrior. And in this thread, interracial couples are a sign of wokism and intersectionality. It doesn't matter what our opinion of it is, accept where we pigeon-hole you.
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Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:26 pm to BiteMe2020
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Do you think Sonic is doing this at random?
Yes or no. Simple question.
I’ve already made a post explaining this.
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Simple question.
Why does it bother you so much when the colors don’t match in a commercial?
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:29 pm to Esquire
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I’ve already made a post explaining this.
13 page thread. Pardon me if I don't follow your every post like a Justin Timberlake fan.
So, you'll need to explain yourself again, or simply ignore my posts. I'm not going back through 13 pages of posts to search for your retardism.
You still apparently can't address what I actually posted.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:37 pm to BiteMe2020
This thread is proof the social engineering behind these ads works on many people. These people also probably believe only whites break into homes. 
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:45 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Are interracial couples a "left wing" thing now?
On this board, yes. I've been told multiple times that, because I'm married to a black woman, I'm a social justice warrior. And in this thread, interracial couples are a sign of wokism and intersectionality.
Which is a super interesting phenomenon unto itself. Then if you go elsewhere, I'll get told by "concerned" progressive types that my right-wing views are really because of my wife's influence, not my own thoughts/conclusions. shite is fascinating
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:47 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Says the one who has been working overtime trying to go for the "you're so outraged!" routine while I've been doing nothing but calmly answering point by point, same as you
Even if I had said anything like that, and I didn't, you're still left with the central point I have made that you've dodged, dipped, ducked, dove, and dodged throughout our entire conversation.
All you've done is make assertions against at it. How does one pop being fairly static and the other being dynamic make a comparison between those two pops invalid when the context of the comparison is representations in media/commercials and the lefties that push it? Despite numerous attempts at getting you to explain why you just keep saying that it just does or tell me you've already demonstrated how it does.
There's no way to converse with someone who behaves like that. You're so all over the place you'll tell me that you would have a problem with only one race being represented in media then in the very next sentence try and tell me you wouldn't see a need for any sort of minimum bar of representation for any demographic in media. Maybe your going to try and dance on the line and say you'd have a problem with only one demographic being representated but would keep your mouth shut, but even if that's the case why have such a strong opinion of those who see a problem with representation (even if you disagree with their stance) and speak out?
The fact that you see an issue with absolute representation of one demographic only echoes points you've scoffed at from other posters, namely that there is actually an appropriate/inappropriate amount of representation in media. You just happen to disagree and are also content with the current status quo so you can sit back and pretend you don't care.
The only person who has claimed the other was being emotional is you. Again, I appreciate the effort you've put into this, but you haven't added much substance to this subject.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Which is a super interesting phenomenon unto itself. Then if you go elsewhere, I'll get told by "concerned" progressive types that my right-wing views are really because of my wife's influence, not my own thoughts/conclusions. shite is fascinating
I would have thought - by now - that a black person dating a white person was "selling out" to whitey.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:49 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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No, I think most are saying they were thrown by the fact that a commercial that grew to be a cult classic had a character in it all of a sudden look radically different with zero explanation proffered. "Jake" from State Farm was some dumpy middle aged white guy in khakis, then all of a sudden he's a fit, attractive black dude? No one cares that he's black. It's the unexpected, unexplained switch that threw people. Would have been better if they'd just changed the name, IMHO. Let the new actor build his own legacy. Dude is obviously charismatic enough, and is getting far more face time than the original "Jake."
I kinda get that. When they redid the phone call commercial they actually brought back the original Jake to transition him, but I guess a lot of people didn't recognize him.
But if it bothered someone so much you would think they would have looked it up by now.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:51 pm to mightyMick
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These people also probably believe only whites break into homes.
Asinine suggestion. Let me get this straight: because I take the sentiment (with which nearly 100% of the poster itt have said they agree) that interracial couples are NOT a problem to its logical conclusion and say, ergo, an increase in their portrayal in advertising is also not an issue about which to get upset (again--no one itt has even bothered to provide data that IR couples are even "overrepresented"--whatever tf THAT threshold is supposed to be, and for whatever reason that threshold is supposed to be adhered to, since IR portrayal is, again, not a problem for any of us, but I digress); then I must believe the ridiculous portrayal that ad companies have fallen into RE: burglars being almost exclusively white? I've even spoken before on how ridiculous that is
What does all burglars being portrayed as white (objectively ridiculous) have to do with an increase in IR couples being portrayed (objectively unproblematic--by all our own words?)
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:51 pm to Saint Alfonzo
quote:So true. One of the most conservative guys I know is a white guy married to a black woman.
On this board, yes. I've been told multiple times that, because I'm married to a black woman, I'm a social justice warrior. And in this thread, interracial couples are a sign of wokism and intersectionality. It doesn't matter what our opinion of it is, accept where we pigeon-hole you.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:54 pm to mmcgrath
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So true. One of the most conservative guys I know is a white guy married to a black woman.
And nobody cares.
That's the point. It's one thing to love who you happen to meet and fall in love with. It's quite another for a company to dictate that a black woman and a white guy appear in a commercial just because they want to be woke.
I think that's the point where a lot of idiots get tripped up.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:57 pm to PiscesTiger
The left is so full of hypocrites.
Lefties: "omg, I noticed that there aren't enough X (gays, trannies, racial minorities, IR couples) in the media. This is a travesty and must be addressed. We need to see more people who represent us!"
Also lefties: "omg, you noticed that there is an overrepresented amount of X (gays, trannies, racial minorities, IR couples) in the media? What kind of a bigot are you to want to see a realistic representation of people like yourself!"
Lefties: "omg, I noticed that there aren't enough X (gays, trannies, racial minorities, IR couples) in the media. This is a travesty and must be addressed. We need to see more people who represent us!"
Also lefties: "omg, you noticed that there is an overrepresented amount of X (gays, trannies, racial minorities, IR couples) in the media? What kind of a bigot are you to want to see a realistic representation of people like yourself!"
Posted on 3/15/21 at 1:00 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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If all the IR couples disappeared from advertising tomorrow, I'd be like "huh, that's weird," and go buy milk and eggs like normal. I wouldn't be posting threads bitching about "WHY ARE THERE ONLY SAME-RACE COUPLES IN ADVERTISING?! I DEMAND COUPLES THAT LOOK LIKE MY HOUSEHOLD!" I truly, truly do not give that much of a shite.
You consistent presence in this thread is evidence of your concern on this topic. There's tons of threads bitching about random crap on these forums yet here you are in this specific thread, typing up well over a dozen responses to various people, many quite long.
You've already said you'd have a problem with only same-raced couples were being represented in media/commercials. I would have a problem with that as well. You just happen to be in a position to where you're satisfied with the status quo and can pretend you don't care to call out those who do.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 1:03 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Asinine suggestion. Let me get this straight: because I take the sentiment (with which nearly 100% of the poster itt have said they agree) that interracial couples are NOT a problem to its logical conclusion and say, ergo, an increase in their portrayal in advertising is also not an issue about which to get upset (again--no one itt has even bothered to provide data that IR couples are even "overrepresented"--whatever tf THAT threshold is supposed to be, and for whatever reason that threshold is supposed to be adhered to, since IR portrayal is, again, not a problem for any of us, but I digress); then I must believe the ridiculous portrayal that ad companies have fallen into RE: burglars being almost exclusively white? I've even spoken before on how ridiculous that is
What does all burglars being portrayed as white (objectively ridiculous) have to do with an increase in IR couples being portrayed (objectively unproblematic--by all our own words?)
It's the fact that a company cucks to the concept. That's distinct from the fact that interracial couples actually occur in nature.
Again, this is the distinction a lot of people can't seem to grasp.
Sonic is cucking, while they serve up the wrong orders via toothless meth addict crack whores who want to keep your change from a $10.00 bill for a $8.34 order.
McDonalds has the same problem, and soon everyone will be paying $15/hour for their McDicking Burger so that a toothless crack whore can put catsup on your hamburger even though you ordered a chicken sandwich.
Society is retarded as it is. Democrats make it worse. Enjoy your fricking fricked up woke order, while the rest of us go somewhere else.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 1:06 pm to BiteMe2020
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That's the point. It's one thing to love who you happen to meet and fall in love with. It's quite another for a company to dictate that a black woman and a white guy appear in a commercial just because they want to be woke.
But there is no wokism in these commercials. They show mixed race couples doing normal family things, like lunch at Sonic. And people have a conniption about it. "That interracial couple can't take a road trip in that spacious Nissan SUV! And how dare they go in search of spicy meat snacks? Beef jerky is for white people!!"
Posted on 3/15/21 at 1:07 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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But there is no wokism in these commercials.
So, they fooled you, too. Let me know when they feature their bearded ladies and toothless meth addict crack whores in the commercials.
Have you conducted a study on the race and economic backgrounds of the actresses playing the server parts in these commercials? And why are they always women?
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 1:10 pm to BiteMe2020
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It's the fact that a company cucks to the concept.
Tbird is arguing that they aren't cucking to the concept, he's arguing that interracial couples are on the rise (they are) and so its logical to expect their representation to increase.
I think it's mostly what you're highlighting: non-organic attempts at social engineering from woke population centers who have a monopoly on all forms of media and entertainment. Although I do think you should expect to see a rise in representation as it becomes more common. The issue is the avalanche of it, and other examples of boosted representation (see my GLAAD post). Even if I don't have internal emails highlighting the woke culture present, the pattern is there for everyone to see.
Its interesting that Tbird will acknowledge, and laugh at, woke commercials having whites overwhelmingly be the thief but then think that these same companies aren't doing the same with other items.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 1:13 pm to BiteMe2020
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So, they fooled you, too.
Sorry, man, showing mixed race couples in commercials isn't being woke or trying to fool anyone. It's a sign of shifting demographics and basic marketing strategy.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 1:25 pm to Azkiger
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you haven't added much substance to this subject.
I've added nothing BUT substance to this subject, actually. And I'll continue to do so
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Even if I had said anything like that, and I didn't
Oops, except you did.:
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Do you have anything outside of outrage to back up that assertion?
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you're still left with the central point I have made that you've dodged, dipped, ducked, dove, and dodged throughout our entire conversation.
I've literally (and painstakingly) addressed every point you've raised itt. Even those that were naked, bad faith gotcha attempts on your part. I didn't have to do that, but like I said, I enjoy longform discussions.
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How does one pop being fairly static and the other being dynamic make a comparison between those two pops invalid when the context of the comparison is representations in media/commercials and the lefties that push it?
Excellent question. Here's the answer:
While gay rights activists experienced wild success in achieving representation, their market IS fixed. That's just the reality. If/once political expediency of featuring gay relationships prominently in ads wanes, the market will likely adjust to be more in line with the true buying power of the niche (which, to be fair, is actually higher than average, but that's a separate discussion). The difference with the interracial issue is that there is no real plateau that can be predicted. Definitely not in the short or medium term, anyway. Is it politically expedient now ON TOP of other factors? One could make that argument, but that doesn't change the reality of the marketplace experiencing seismic change. Gays have always been here at their present levels, for the most part. Interracial couples? Not so much. Biracial offspring? Not like what we're seeing now/will see in coming generations. That's the key difference that I've been trying to drive home.
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Maybe your going to try and dance on the line and say you'd have a problem with only one demographic being representated but would keep your mouth shut
I never said or implied this at all. You cooked this strawman up in your head. For a LONG time, it was rare to see ANY interracial representation in ads at all (remember the kerfuffle over the Cheerios ad with the interracial parents in it? That was only 8 years ago). I was already a married man back then, but it's not like I was clamoring for IR couples in ads. I thought the racist responses toward it were silly, and said as much at the time, but also noted that there was a ton of support.
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why have such a strong opinion of those who see a problem with representation (even if you disagree with their stance) and speak out?
Why have such a strong opinion of interracial representation in ads if, as we all agree, IR relationships are not a cause for concern in the slightest? Can't have it both ways. It's a thought exercise, and I enjoy the debate with some of y'all as I see some try to flesh out their thoughts. Some do better than others.
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The fact that you see an issue with absolute representation of one demographic only echoes points you've scoffed at from other posters, namely that there is actually an appropriate/inappropriate amount of representation in media.
I never said there WASN'T an inappropriate amount of representation. "Inappropriate" would be one-race only. No matter what that race is. We are discussing literally the antithesis of that hypothetical (RE: multiple races represented onscreen). There is no logical inconsistency on my part.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 1:28 pm to BiteMe2020
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I'm not going back through 13 pages of posts
Big surprise. A liberal with no work ethic.
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