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re: Sonic commercials very woke
Posted on 3/15/21 at 5:45 pm to PiscesTiger
Posted on 3/15/21 at 5:45 pm to PiscesTiger
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White woman sitting in a car with her white daughter but a black male with a ponytail is in the front passenger. Instead of just selling a burger, Sonic sold the concept of divorce and dating interracially. What is it Sonic wants us to learn from this?
What is the message the rest are trying to deliver? Show me a black intruder on a personal security commercial. OK. Show me one on any commercial.
White man = evil
Black man = good
We’re way past any semblance of even handedness here. This is pure agenda driven. Well, let’s say some is motivated by fear if they aired such a thing showing a black man breaking into a house and the backlash they’d get, but most of it is agenda driven by the shite stirrers and collectivist hordes running shite now.
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Posted on 3/15/21 at 5:49 pm to Mike da Tigah
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We’re way past any semblance of even handedness here. This is pure agenda driven. Well, let’s say some is motivated by fear if they aired such a thing showing a black man breaking into a house and the backlash they’d get, but most of it is agenda driven by the shite stirrers and collectivist hordes running shite now.
Yeppers. Sonic didn't waste any money doing a study on their customers' gender or race. They just spread their legs and hopped on the woke pole and started dancing.
I like Sonic's iced tea. Since I gave up sodas and went to unsweet tea with lemon, that's one of the few places that has decent iced tea consistently. So I've been to hundreds of Sonics - many times EACH - over the past decade.
I don't pay attention to the race of the people sitting in the parking spots. I don't care. So their advertising is more of a turn off than anything.
Again, why not go ahead and skip to the front of the woke line and put some trannie couples in their next commercial?
Put your balls where your mouth is, Sonic. Or lack of balls. Or quasi-female gender neutral hormonal genital balls, or whatever they're called by males who aren't males.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 5:50 pm to Azkiger
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You seem to steer towards the worst assumptions and I don't. I hope you're wrong about that.
Not true at all and I've said so in this thread.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 5:54 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Not true at all and I've said so in this thread.
You just told me the following.
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I would say the premise behind BET is more like "We don't like whites, we want to see more of us."
It's not outlandish to say that the above is "steering towards the worst assumptions".
And I don't want to go back through all your posts, but theres a lot of instances where you keep assuming the worst about people.
Again, I can't prove you wrong as I'm not a mind reader. So you very well might be right. But don't try and bullshite me and say you don't usually steer towards the worst assumptions.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 5:59 pm to PiscesTiger
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What is it Sonic wants us to learn from this?
that divisity fixes everything
Posted on 3/15/21 at 6:04 pm to Azkiger
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It's not outlandish to say that the above is "steering towards the worst assumptions". And I don't want to go back through all your posts, but theres a lot of instances where you keep assuming the worst about people. Again, I can't prove you wrong as I'm not a mind reader. So you very well might be right. But don't try and bullshite me and say you don't usually steer towards the worst assumptions.
Lol, what part of "I don't watch it, I can't speak on it" did you not understand? See, that was me not speaking on what motivates a company like BET. You can try to twist that into something it wasn't but it doesn't wash.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 6:11 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Lol what part of "I don't watch it, I can't speak on it" did you not understand?
How about the part before that where you did the exact opposite?
You said "I don't know, I've never watched BET. If I had to guess, I would say the premise behind BET is more like "We don't like whites, we want to see more of us."
How is "if I had to guess it was because they don't like white people" not making assumptions that steer towards the worst in people?
Just stick to your Cuomo/Cuomo buddy sessions with Tbird, you're not cut out for this.
EDIT: Replying to your edit...
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See, that was me not speaking on what motivates a company like BET.
What a crock of shite. You said "I would say the premise behind BET is more like..."
But no, that's not you speaking on what motivates a company like BET.
Thanks for finally making your bullshite so blatant that I no longer have to avoid making negative assumptions about you. It's quite clear you're not having this discussion in good faith.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 6:17 pm to Azkiger
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How about the part before that where you did the exact opposite? You said "I don't know, I've never watched BET. If I had to guess, I would say the premise behind BET is more like "We don't like whites, we want to see more of us." How is "if I had to guess it was because they don't like white people" not making assumptions that steer towards the worst in people? Just stick to your Cuomo/Cuomo buddy sessions with Tbird, you're not cut out for this.
Lol, cut out for what? Arguing with some disingenuous internet a-hole? A pretty lame gotcha on your part. Again, I don't know what motivates BET, I don't watch it, I can't speak on it. If anything, that's giving them the benefit of the doubt.
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Thanks for finally making your bullshite so blatant that I no longer have to avoid making negative assumptions about you. It's quite clear you're not having this discussion in good faith.
Lol, like I give a frick. Go cry in your car again at the Sonic because you saw a black guy with a white woman in the next car over.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 6:20 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Lol, cut out for what?
Posted on 3/15/21 at 6:59 pm to BiteMe2020
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If you can't address what I posted, then frick off. I was not addressing your specific comment on page whatever when I posted what I posted.
My previous comment did address your post, Einstein. Do you need the numbers before 5 to help you find 6?
Posted on 3/15/21 at 7:02 pm to PiscesTiger
Oh the horror !! 
Posted on 3/15/21 at 7:11 pm to Esquire
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Add Sonic to my boycott list except if anyone wants to meet out back.
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Do you only eat at places with all whites in the commercial?
No, but you missed the point on so many levels.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 7:24 pm to Saint Alfonzo
Duuuuuuuuuude, you’ve worn this thread out. Let go of the ropes and let’s all agree to disagree. I don’t like the constant advertising narrative that white men are bad people. Bad people are bad people. I think the majority of us love others from other races and are cool with date who you want. But...it is painfully obvious now as to what is going on. It’s disheartening and it’s stupid.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 7:25 pm to Saint Alfonzo
I sincerely hope when you have a heart attack, you get the most wokest liberal affirmative action heart doctor there is.
Or the next time you apply the brakes in your car, I hope they were installed by the wokest Chevy or Ford employee, not the best. We'd hate for you to end up in the ditch, but moreso, we'd hate that you end up offended by a company that didn't advertise to the 13.583% black populace.
We've gone from wanting people to succeed and have a better life than their parents to wanting incompetent people to get jobs because they have the correct skin color.
I have nothing against people of color, but all of it is horse shite. Personal decisions affect you AND your kids.
People need to wake the frick up.
Or the next time you apply the brakes in your car, I hope they were installed by the wokest Chevy or Ford employee, not the best. We'd hate for you to end up in the ditch, but moreso, we'd hate that you end up offended by a company that didn't advertise to the 13.583% black populace.
We've gone from wanting people to succeed and have a better life than their parents to wanting incompetent people to get jobs because they have the correct skin color.
I have nothing against people of color, but all of it is horse shite. Personal decisions affect you AND your kids.
People need to wake the frick up.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 9:49 pm to mmcgrath
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Dude, Sonic has been making adds with two white guys (not gay) and traditional families of the same race for decades. Now they make a couple of commercials with an interracial couple and you think it is an attempt to brainwash you?
If you think the conversation is only about the Sonic commercial, then you're lost.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 9:53 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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This is such an odd take. Putting aside the lumping together of gay with interracial couples for a second (two distinctly different unions, I'm sure we'll agree), my point is we've all agreed early on that interracial couples are not an issue for any of us. We all agree there, correct? When *I* say something like that, I truly mean it--seeing a white guy with a black girl doesn't really register for me any more than seeing a blonde haired white guy with a brunette white girl, or an extra tall black guy with an extra short black girl. See where I'm going with this? Y'all are focusing on superfluous features--in this case, skin tone. Does the left hyper focus on that? YES. Duh. But normal people (i.e., people well adjusted enough to not give a rip about stupid shite like skin color) aren't bothered by fictional characters in ads. Don't see ads as attempts to "correct" one's thinking.
Promote is probably a more accurate word. I don't care if people want an interracial marriage, that's not my point.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 10:21 pm to PiscesTiger
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Duuuuuuuuuude, you’ve worn this thread out. Let go of the ropes and let’s all agree to disagree. I don’t like the constant advertising narrative that white men are bad people. Bad people are bad people. I think the majority of us love others from other races and are cool with date who you want. But...it is painfully obvious now as to what is going on. It’s disheartening and it’s stupid.
I'm sorry, did an opposing viewpoint put a damper on y'alls anti-miscegenation Jim Crow Fest? My bad.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 10:28 pm to Azkiger
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That was more tongue in cheek, as all you did was assert that it was "preposterous". It just reminded me of an English chap with a monocle and mustache showing as much outrage as his polite society would allow. But point taken.
Ah, I see, it was more about my word choice, then
My vocab is pretty eclectic, sorry, and that response kinda does make sense now that you've explained it. All good 
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Clearly not, as you just now went on to actually demonstrate why static/dynamic pops make my comparison invalid.
I just clarified what I'd been saying all along, really. I thought it was pretty self-evident, but perhaps that was presumptuous on my part.
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anything that doesn't address intersectionality is missing the mark. That's the only, at least in my opinion, proper criticism anyone could lob at this. Because as you've said, as saint has said, and as I've said, there's nothing wrong with interracial couples or their representation in media.
The disconnect here is that if the italicized is true, then its part in intersectionality is merely circumstantial, not something worthy of criticism. That's where I'm coming from.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with being gay, or even trans (just don't push it on kids, expect me to pay for surgeries, or start slinging your dong around my wife while she's in a women's gym lockerroom getting dressed to work out)
100% agreed here, btw
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I do think there's something wrong with too high of a percentage of TV characters being LGBTQ. While I cannot give you an exact percentage, I don't think it's outlandish to say that 4x representation screams woke culture.
This is a little bit tangential to the interracial discussion, and I won't pretend to have strong feelings on it (and, like I said, I'll bristle/push back on those who try to disingenuously conflate gay representation with interracial representation). I haven't researched those numbers (again, not my passion), but I think it's safe to surmise they're higher than the population representation. Whether that's a problem or not is subjective, but personally I do think that that would scream "woke culture." HOWEVER, let's also be clear in delineating that there is are key differences between gay sexual orientation and straight interracial couples. Which is why I think it prudent to eschew conflating the two demographics in these discussions.
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Ok, what about only one minority character each year, the other 99.999% is white?
Clearly that'd be an issue as well. The point I'm trying to make is virtually everyone will have an opinion on representation, we just have differing views on where the line is drawn.
And your solution is to mirror population percentage for demographics as closely as possible. My counter is that if we're all talking the talk of "interracial relationships in ads aren't an issue" for us, then we should be able to walk the walk no matter where the sliders land. Personally, it matters not to me if I see no interracial couples in any ad ever, or if they're literally in every ad.
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Maybe you really would shrug your shoulders if no interracial couples were represented in media and go buy eggs and milk, but I don't think you'd be being this critical of people complaining online.
You'd be wrong. Like I said, I enjoy longform discussion. This is my jam
The content of the ads themselves doesn't bother me or sway my emotions one iota. I have a degree in the shite--I understand the forces at work. It's a thought exercise for me, and I am a fan of debate. I used to do it on TD all the time (do it more on other platforms now). This is just me being me--I've done this same type of back and forth on a variety of subjects over the years. Thanks for doing this with me the past few days Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:49 pm to Esquire
Not fragile, don't need safe mental illness normalized. Your probably on the MAP committees in your locale.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:18 am to TbirdSpur2010
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The disconnect here is that if the italicized is true, then its part in intersectionality is merely circumstantial, not something worthy of criticism. That's where I'm coming from.
Let me try and be more precise with my language because I don't think I worded my stance as accurately as I could have.
There's nothing wrong with interracial couples being represented in the media.
I do feel there are ways any demographic could be improperly represented in the media. My previous statement could be read to support any amount of representation or non-representation and that's obviously not the case.
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And your solution is to mirror population percentage for demographics as closely as possible.
I don't want to get bean counters and strict limits involved. There's certainly a wide-ish range I'd be perfectly content with.
And there'd be no way to enforce it as I wouldn't want the government getting involved - trying to police this show or that commercial. It's just something I'd like to see the industry as a whole adopt on their own.
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My counter is that if we're all talking the talk of "interracial relationships in ads aren't an issue" for us, then we should be able to walk the walk no matter where the sliders land.
If we could rewind time back 7 or 8 years I'd 110% agree with you, but we're living in 2021. I don't think there's any issue with a syrup bottle NOT featuring a black woman, or think that a stick of butter MUST feature a native american woman, but that doesn't mean I'll follow those mindsets where ever they lead.
I guess at the end of the day it all boils down to the source of the change. An increase in interracial couples would explain a rise in representation, but I think it's more than just that. I think woke culture is also pushing on the slider because I think they're pushing on every slider.
I'm not sure if you're much of a gamer, but if you are there's decent odds you'll be able to place this YouTube clip. Sure, it's just one clip, but I don't feel like dredging similar SJWs saying similar things past midnight my time. I do take SJWs at their word, I believe that they think there's all sorts of bigotry in every area of our society/culture and are pushing sliders in every area of our society/culture.
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Thanks for doing this with me the past few days
I appreciate the patients and respect, it goes a long ways.
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