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re: Sonic commercials very woke
Posted on 3/14/21 at 12:02 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 3/14/21 at 12:02 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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with both super woke and anti woke types claiming to not have a problem with interracial relationships,
I’ve heard (maybe from you?) that black women are typically the most openly hostile to a bm/wf relationship. Is the reverse true? Do black males have problems with wm/bf marriages?
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Posted on 3/14/21 at 12:08 pm to Tiger in Texas
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The latest new commercial is the Asian woman with the black husband. I believe everyone is equal, but that doesn't mean we have to like or mix with a particular race or ethnic group.
Are you listening to yourself right now?
Posted on 3/14/21 at 12:16 pm to Flats
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I’ve heard (maybe from you?) that black women are typically the most openly hostile to a bm/wf relationship. Is the reverse true? Do black males have problems with wm/bf marriages?
I can't speak for all black males, of course, but I honestly haven't seen any such animosity to speak of, really. Not as a whole, anyways. Those black males who'd have a problem with such, would be opposed to interracial relationships in general, most likely.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 12:18 pm to Flats
quote:Nah, frees up the White women.
Do black males have problems with wm/bf marriages?
Posted on 3/14/21 at 12:24 pm to Flats
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Do black males have problems with wm/bf marriages?
In our experience, yes, there is a faction of them that does have a problem with it. The animosity usually gets directed at the black woman rather than the white dude.
This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 3/14/21 at 12:47 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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The animosity usually gets directed at the black woman rather than the white dude
Yeah, which is also a weird phenomenon unto itself.
ETA: Side note, notice how a couple of blokes who kept asking for explanations about why the increase in ads is happening just straight up ghosted the thread when presented with said explanations?
This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 3/14/21 at 1:00 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Sonic every where must use the same rancid grease to fry with. Any thing deep fried is eccch. Maybe the interracial couple could take this on as a project
Posted on 3/14/21 at 1:27 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Yeah, which is also a weird phenomenon unto itself.
It's a bizarre rabbit hole for sure. Other sites than this one are a better alley to look at it.
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ETA: Side note, notice how a couple of blokes who kept asking for explanations about why the increase in ads is happening just straight up ghosted the thread when presented with said explanations?
That's what usually happens.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 1:54 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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In our experience, yes, there is a faction of them that does have a problem with it. The animosity usually gets directed at the black woman rather than the white dude.
That’s interesting. On the paleface side I think white women would be the group with the lowest amount of hostility; I don’t think it even registers with them. The white males who make snide comments about bm/wf also typically aim it at the female, not the male.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 2:23 pm to Flats
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That’s interesting. On the paleface side I think white women would be the group with the lowest amount of hostility; I don’t think it even registers with them. The white males who make snide comments about bm/wf also typically aim it at the female, not the male.
White women aren't hostile about it because black women don't date out much. When black women date out enough to where white women start to view them as competition, the claws will come out. There's a fledgling divest movement out there where black women are starting to explore non-black dating options. It's managed to piss off black men and black women who are anti-interracial.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 2:25 pm to Saint Alfonzo
Shut up, cuck
Posted on 3/14/21 at 2:28 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Black women used to be on the side of conservative whites bc they are the biggest net losers in interracial dating (between blacks and whites), but they are now beholden to the woke movement more than any other group so they’re now fully on board
This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/14/21 at 2:33 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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ETA: Side note, notice how a couple of blokes who kept asking for explanations about why the increase in ads is happening just straight up ghosted the thread when presented with said explanations?
Any explanation that goes beyond intersectionality missed the mark.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 2:54 pm to SirWinston
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Shut up, cuck
Lol. Eat a bowl of dicks, a-hole.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 3:04 pm to Azkiger
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Any explanation that goes beyond intersectionality missed the mark.
I wasn't talking about you, but you could go back and read mine from page 5, which had to do with societal trends and market dynamics, which happened to be my undergraduate field of study. Not that that makes me infallible, but at the same time, I'm not sitting here just pulling shite out of my arse like many itt who ask for explanations then bounce. THAT is missing the mark, IMHO.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 3:06 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Or by an actual Black man.
notice how a couple of blokes who kept asking for explanations about why the increase in ads is happening just straight up ghosted the thread when presented with said explanations?
Posted on 3/14/21 at 3:09 pm to AggieHank86
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Or by an actual Black man.
Same types that'll downvote your legal opinions if they don't align with their predispositions
Or my favorite are those threads where posters will be like "yeah Hispanics hate black people," and I'm like, "Bruh, I'm from San Antonio...nobody has ever given me a hard time here, especially not Hispanics." Downvote city, but no rebuttals Ah well, amusing.Posted on 3/14/21 at 3:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I wasn't talking about you, but you could go back and read mine from page 5, which had to do with societal trends and market dynamics, which happened to be my undergraduate field of study. Not that that makes me infallible, but at the same time, I'm not sitting here just pulling shite out of my arse like many itt who ask for explanations then bounce. THAT is missing the mark, IMHO.
No doubt an increase in interracial dating/marriages should correlate with an increase in representation in media, but what we're seeing is more than just that.
Take the LGBTQ population for example. Not even a month ago Gallop estimated that the LGBTQ pop in America was ~5.6%.
GLAAD, in 2017, placed the number of LGBTQ representation in TV shows to be at 10.2%.
"And GLAAD is seeing television lead that charge. In last year’s WWATV study, GLAAD called on the industry
to ensure that by 2020, 10 percent of series regular
characters on primetime scripted broadcast series would
be LGBTQ, and the industry has met that challenge. In a
single year, broadcast surpassed that goal, climbing to
a record high 10.2 percent of broadcast series regulars
being LGBTQ characters."
- GLAAD (page 4)
They're waaaaay over represented, mission accomplished right?
Nope.
Reading further, on the same page (page 4) we see this.
"So this year, we are issuing a new challenge. GLAAD is calling on the industry to ensure that 20 percent of series regular characters on primetime scripted broadcast series are LGBTQ by 2025. Further, we would challenge all platforms to make sure that within the next two years, half of LGBTQ characters on every platform are people of color. While broadcast has actually hit this mark two years in a row, cable and streaming have yet to reach this goal. These two steps are key moves towards ensuring that entertainment reflects the world in which it is created and the audience who consumes it."
So being ~5.6% of the pop and ~10.2% of the TV show representation wasn't enough. No, we need to hit 20%, 4 times the amount of representation. Also, notice the underlined portion. I don't think people of color make up half of the LGBTQ community.
This sort of representation has real world effects too.
Gallop has found that America's significantly overestimate the gay/lesbian population. American's think it's around 23-24%, when it's really around 5%.
While I don't think there's any data on interracial couple representation in commercials and ads, it's not outlandish to assume much of the same. Cartoon Network is telling children that following MLK's advice of not seeing color is racism, Gillette's attacking 'toxic masculinity', M&M's is calling out mansplaining, Coke is teaching it's employees to be less white, etc. I could go on.
Intersectionality has infected so many areas of our culture, I don't see why people who acknowledge that start pumping the breaks when commercials and ads are brought up.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 3:30 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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The animosity usually gets directed at the black woman rather than the white dude
Yeah, which is also a weird phenomenon unto itself.
I don’t really view traditional “demographic based” advertising as the norm anymore.
I view advertising as a new construct in the “Woke paradox” - where losing some money is a better option than being assaulted by leftists via cancel culture.
As to the black woman being “blamed,” I think people are seeing it for what it is currently...social engineering. In the commercials today, white guys are portrayed as dumbasses, soy boy chucks, criminals (see ADT) or oppressors. Black women are rich, powerful, intelligent, authority figures that must be listened to. I want to note that these traits aligned with black women don’t seem to typically apply to black men unless they are gay (black Jake not withstanding).
So what is the end goal if it isn’t sales (which seems counterintuitive for...you know - advertising)? The cynic in me says it is to prepare America for Kamala Harris. To be fair, I have said this for quite some time.
In short, I don’t view these commercials from the vein of race per se, but rather from advertising being used as a tool for socio-political engineering.
You are well versed in the field with your background. I am genuinely curious as to your views on this. Before responding though, I simply ask that you pick a random channel and scope out a few commercials and give your thoughts. The sheer volume of commercials displaying what I described above, I predict, will allow you to observe this phenomenon regardless of what channel you choose to watch. Peace amigo.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 3:30 pm to PiscesTiger
This thread is 8 pages and still growing? My outrage meter must be pegged out because this isn’t even registering with me.
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